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DeeJayXD t1_ivf0lsd wrote

Reply to comment by jiimmyyy in Michael Shermer argues that science can determine many of our moral values. Morality is aimed at protecting certain human desires, like avoidance of harm (e.g. torture, slavery). Science helps us determine what these desires are and how to best achieve them. by Ma3Ke4Li3

Good riposte; but, does that argument not depend on the claim that our actions ought to be consistent with our values?

There’s also a good discussion to be had there exploring the question of why you/we value reason (and whether we ought to do so), just as an aside.

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