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Butterfly_853 t1_iyhv2j9 wrote

Reply to comment by beingforelorn in Why “the Christmas feeling” is more profound than you think - some holiday themed philosophy by Melodic_Antelope6490

Christmas is about nostalgia and hope , not oppression or wastefulness . We use this period every year to celebrate the good experiences we’ve had with family and friends during what would ordinarily be a difficult time of year . When you think of Christmas you think of the magical feeling you had around it as a child , and that’s why it’s so nice as an adult to reminisce on that magic again . This is my take on Christmas anyway , that it’s a brilliant excuse to spend time with family and friends that we may not have seen much throughout the hustle and bustle of the year , and to make memories that aren’t clouded over .

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beingforelorn t1_iyhw6qt wrote

The notion that the Christmas season as a whole is useful to offset the hardships that the year as a whole has held is likely close to the heart of Christmas, and the growth of the season to 2-3 months could be representative of the dismal and dreadful existences we have come to live in our day to day lives.

But why couple that with the religious theft and oppression that Christmas represents, why not dismiss Christmas and celebrate exactly what you said? That is the oppressive nature of Christmas, everyone is all too willing to ignore its ugliness and accept its boons.

Historically Christmas was made to pacify pagans through their indoctrination into Christianity, we have come to ignore the way Christmas has become what it is in a similar way to how white privilege is institutionalized in modern America. Ignorance is bliss I suppose, but such bliss is oppressive, zealous, and wasteful.

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WhatsUpMyBrothers t1_iyhxo9v wrote

Christmas is awesome

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beingforelorn t1_iyhy429 wrote

And in your eyes what makes Christmas awesome, engage in the philosophical inquiry of your feelings.

Do you feel its awesome because of your experiences or have you studied the history around Christmas and can include things that I may be ignorant of?

Simply saying its awesome doesn't provide anything for conversation, does it?

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WhatsUpMyBrothers t1_iyioj82 wrote

History will show all that exists has a sorted past. You can be a complete Nihilist if you'd like and find no or negative meaning in everything. It's just a shit way to exist.

I find it enjoyable, beautiful, and love spending time with family in the environment Christmas creates.

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Butterfly_853 t1_iym6n9k wrote

Yeah historically that is what Christmas meant , now Christmas is barely a religious holiday , millions of atheists and people of other religions celebrate it purely for the joyous and therapeutic atmosphere it brings .

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