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Ohgodgethelp t1_j3lxfdc wrote

Reply to comment by magvadis in The intersubjectivity collapse: a collapse of the network of unspoken rules that hold civilization together based on the subjectivity of minds that have created it, due to introduction of vastly new minds that lead to unpredictability of agents amongst each other. by Gmroo

No, thats not exactly what it says. Your framing makes it sound like a 1960s civil rights revolution. This is about increasing complexity in the way the new generations minds work, causing them to be incompatible with what came before.

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ThePokemon_BandaiD t1_j3mvej4 wrote

its not about people at all... its about the future of artificial intelligences or transhuman minds

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magvadis t1_j3opfok wrote

Given one instance applies to any function that fits it I don't see how something that works for civil rights in the ,60s doesn't work for general systems in many situations.

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Ohgodgethelp t1_j3oxg4y wrote

That makes no sense. You're stating 1) young people are agents of change 2) because they do not accept the previous generation had certain privileges.

Article states 1) young people result in a changing social system because 2) they absorb and process data in a completely different level of complexity.

The civil rights of the 60's could be seen as a result of this, but it's a big assumption. In any case that does not mean the civil rights of the 60's is EQUIVALENT of this, any more than a dog having four legs means all quadrupeds are dogs.

The example in the article could also apply to older generations being unable to have any sort of discourse with younger generations due to more complex modes of thinking. You could say that, for example, grandpa going crazy because of facebook is a result of a younger generation processing information at such a level that they could literally hack grandpa's brain.

It's not too many complex words to say a simple phrase. I'm afraid you didn't grasp what was being said and you oversimplified it for your own understanding.

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