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ThrowedAwayAcount t1_jdz5qwq wrote

Also helps that people hate that peace of shit that shot him Luke Kislak.

FUCK LUKE KISLAK!!!!

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ScareJessica2Death t1_jdzvqd7 wrote

Who is he?

I saw his mugshot on TV.

This might not be the right time, but what was the reason, if any, for the shooting? Was it just some random dude riding his bike in Bloomfield?

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Low-Lingonberry2760 t1_je07n4v wrote

My understanding is that Luke was a fuckhead (with a history of fuckery per a friend who knew him) that had a mental break and Alex was just in the wrong place.

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SayYes2Scorpions t1_je0qdmg wrote

Yeah, that matches every interaction with Luke that I've ever had.

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InitiativeSerious798 t1_je1tq9v wrote

Same here. It just sucks that the “scene” enables this kind of shithead behavior and it lead to this. Just absolutely horrible

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AdvicePuzzleheaded95 t1_je36skl wrote

How does the scene enable this? Not doubting you, maybe I just don’t have the facts. Was the handgun his?

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InitiativeSerious798 t1_je4nlru wrote

Fair question. He’s a known abusive asshole, which is now being called out publicly but really wasn’t before this happened. See Akay’s comment a little below mine, it’s 100% spot on. But basically by people playing in bands with him, booking those bands, and including him with the rest of the cool kids for various things, sent a message that how he was behaving was fine. I have no idea who he got the gun from, and I truly hope that it wasn’t given to him willingly. There are a lot of apologists in the scene for various bad behaviors and I don’t think they appreciate the consequences it can have.

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akaynaveed t1_je6gekc wrote

Exactly, punks suppose to be different than the rest of the world. Seems like punk is just like the rest of the world. Its a party, and it lets abusers run rampant.

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WafflePilot1125 t1_je7svm8 wrote

There IS a lot of good in punk. But no matter how small you break down society, if it can be described as a community, you’re gonna have elements that don’t actually give a damn about…anything but themselves. Or rather their own vision of themselves. It seems that’s just part of humanity, maybe. You will always have infiltrators.

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Budget-Plankton-7096 t1_je6bmwb wrote

Wait... what bands?

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WafflePilot1125 t1_je7si7j wrote

I’m not gonna promote his bands, especially here. However, punk stuff. “Noisecore” or wtfe. I listen to punk, I’ve described myself as a punk. But I couldn’t really listen to the stuff he put out. I was really more into stuff like Ska and Folk punk, anyway. But it really was just…noise. Or maybe I’m just a lot older than my 33 years. 😅

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misathemeb t1_jebw055 wrote

Not sure why you got downvoted, but I also agree and could have posted at least 3 bands here. If OP wants to know bad enough, it’s a pretty lazy Google.

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WafflePilot1125 t1_jec7tud wrote

Thanks, but fwiw, I don’t see any downvotes in my notifications or here. Although I’m very new to Reddit still so I could be missing something. It is a very lazy google, though. Regardless, this is certainly not the thread to be making those bands more infamous than they already will be. There is a certain…sector of punk that takes this sort of nihilistic shitbag and idolizes the fuck out of them. That’s how we got here in the first place. Through some almost ritualistic idolization of people like GG Allin.

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ScareJessica2Death t1_je0wwam wrote

You have had interactions with him???

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BackgroundGear5566 t1_je13mxj wrote

Many people have

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astrobug_ t1_jefykqm wrote

First thing I heard about when I walked into work was from someone who has played with him, been around him for years in the same circle and how big of a loser the guy is. Good thing he will probably OD soon and rot and no one will care. And I have never wished that on anyone.

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katiuszka919 t1_je4umo8 wrote

Wtf he’s in bands and hangs out in popular bars—a fuckton of people have.

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ScareJessica2Death t1_je5fdnc wrote

I'm not a goddamn mind reader.

How could I possibly know that???

I don't hang out with bands or in bars. I could give two shits.

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akaynaveed t1_je0u0qv wrote

Someone said it best, that luke created his own shit head joaquin phoenix joker personality, idolizes guns, and chaos.

Knowing the dude and how much of a shit head he is, i would be surprised if he did this to live in infamy and nothing else.

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nightmareorreality t1_je1n3ae wrote

There is always something about that guy that I didn’t like. He started hanging around the house. I lived at a lot and I moved almost immediately.

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kuhkoo t1_je3r529 wrote

I grew up with him (we for sure know each other Akay) and I haven’t talked to him in about five years since I moved to Philly and got sober. Knowing him his entire life, I’m the least surprised that this happened and I’m even less surprised people have made excuses for his actions. I think the conclusion you’ve drawn is correct.

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WafflePilot1125 t1_je7o5vk wrote

Are you an HC grad? Luke and I ran around in the same circles through grade school and high school. Attended the same sleepovers…sled riding in his little village. Edgelord…that is such a perfect discriptor for Luke. A try hard Edgelord at that. Burned into my memory is an incident where Luke was basically masturbating under a throw pillow on a La-Z-boy in a room filled with at least a half dozen prepubescent boys. WEIRD. Doesn’t even begin to scratch the surface. I’ve been more or less out of contact with him since HS graduation, but even then I was always in and out of the punk scene in various locales including PGH. Something about him still always made it back to me, we’ve got a lot of mutual acquaintances. Still, I never heard about all of the actual violence and abuse. Dude apparently idolized GG Allin too much. I thought a lot of what I did know and see was stage bullshit.

I don’t think he was so fucked mentally he didn’t realize the consequences of his actions. Unfortunately, I 100% believe this to be some sort of edgelord ploy to achieve infamy. I’m torn about whether or not this comment contributes to it. Either way, I AM curious to find how the gun was acquired. I can’t imagine it was sold to him by a dealer.

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kuhkoo t1_je7tq3a wrote

I graduated from Indiana the same year he graduated HC

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WafflePilot1125 t1_je7ueof wrote

👍🏻 I’m sure we’re at least aware of each other then. Super small world sometimes. Late in high school, and since, my friend groups are of Indiana grads anyway. Most a year younger than us. Thane H., Ken W., Josh S., others in that circle. Another circle of guys a few years younger, from Indiana, as well.

Also, huge congrats on sobriety. Not an easy thing, ever. I celebrated six years this year.

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kuhkoo t1_je7uus8 wrote

If you knew Luke then, you probably knew me. We were really inseparable high school and post college for me - I lived with him at helter shelter and spent more time in Meghan’s regal than anyone should’ve - and once again, this whole thing doesn’t surprise me at all. There’s a reason I haven’t talked to him in years.

And congratulations to you too! Three years booze and blow free in June!

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WafflePilot1125 t1_je850o7 wrote

OH…gotta add one more thing. Jimmy Shank. There’s another abusive delusional shitbag, and should anyone ever ask you what you think about him…STAY AWAY. I don’t remember him being quite like that during the helter shelter days. Or the later witch haus. Regardless. He is now.

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astrobug_ t1_jefyqfl wrote

Sounds spot on to me based on what I have been told. Dumbass did the worst kind of stuff to be cool.

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ThrowedAwayAcount t1_je0tqa4 wrote

History of violence just an all around edge lord piece of shit.

We’re not even gonna call this a psychotic break, dudes been this way for years.

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