slayhern t1_itwg4uo wrote on October 26, 2022 at 8:19 PM

Reply to comment by ventorun in I haven't gotten my free fentanyl in the mail. by 10malesics

Then why arent fentanyl deaths dramatically up? I mean when your boy donny was in his penultimate year 70k people died. 90k in 2020. Was it because he was soft on china? Or couldnt control the borders properly? I actually take issue with Biden on a ton of issues and can openly say that because I’m not a cult member.

ventorun t1_itwjvey wrote on October 26, 2022 at 8:42 PM

Uhh, wrong:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/nchs_press_releases/2022/202205.htm

“The new data show overdose deaths involving opioids increased from an estimated 70,029 in 2020 to 80,816 in 2021. Overdose deaths from synthetic opioids (primarily fentanyl), psychostimulants such as methamphetamine, and cocaine also continued to increase in 2021 compared to 2020.”

slayhern t1_itwl77f wrote on October 26, 2022 at 8:51 PM

Apologies, that was total drug deaths. When the total opioid deaths rose from ~48k to 70k between 2019 and 2020 was that a dramatic increase? Whose fault was it specifically?

https://nida.nih.gov/sites/default/files/images/fig3od2020.jpg

ventorun t1_itwlm9j wrote on October 26, 2022 at 8:54 PM

OK, I’ll bite. Trump. Who is responsible now? The numbers are way up in 2021 and 2022 based on recent news articles.

slayhern t1_itwmwui wrote on October 26, 2022 at 9:02 PM

Here’s the thing. Its multifaceted, and is as much as it was in the time period I gave you. I dont blame Trump for an increase in opioid deaths during his tenure. I also dont blame Biden. I blame a global depression/recession, a once-in-a-lifetime pandemic with lockdowns occurring during both presidencies, increased foreign manufacturing of opioid and opioid precursors in China, India, Mexico, the war on drugs, the lack of harm prevention services in rural communities, lack of affordable rehabilitation. Im sure I could go on and on.