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Dopey-NipNips t1_jdeofao wrote

It sucks there's nowhere for these kids to ride in RI. We used to take ours to the sand dunes. If I was 20 and living in the city I'd probably be riding the streets too

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None of you people want any kind of solution, you're just glad to see another couple of dead black kids

Play stupid games win stupid prizes. "no, not rip they deserved it"

You're disgusting

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[deleted] t1_jdf4xun wrote

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SufficientZucchini21 t1_jdifpyi wrote

So help me God, if I see you sailing down Broad Street, Mister, I am firing up my jet ski and aiming for you!

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Dopey-NipNips t1_jdfdn9r wrote

If you've spent any time at all on the bay you'd have seen the exact same kind of dangers bullshit with personal watercraft

But you just came up with the silliest thing you could

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fishythepete t1_jdgax6x wrote

Missed the point completely + shit take, that’s bingo.

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talkaboutpractice t1_jdes05k wrote

I think there are better conclusions to be drawn from this whole tragedy...

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Dopey-NipNips t1_jdeyxqk wrote

Like helmets save lives, and all the gear all the time atgatt. Dress for the slide not for the ride. All that stuff that's obvious now that I'm pushing 50 but was never considered or just corny when I was 20. Nobody wore a helmet in the 90s.

OK now that the platitudes are out of the way, part of the problem is that if kids wants to ride there's no place where they can do it. It would help. One less young man riding in the street could be the difference between a life lost and a life lived

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waninggib t1_jdexpi0 wrote

Is there, though? Because that’s literally why people ride in the streets.

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talkaboutpractice t1_jdeycaz wrote

America always has the most amazing counterpoints to what i think is a 100% clear dumb thing to do.

But if more offroading space would prevent people from riding with no headlights, over the limit and with no lights... Then let's do it

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Dopey-NipNips t1_jdf1ztj wrote

Is there some country that young men don't do stupid, dangerous shit because an adrenaline rush feels good and their underdeveloped minds know they're invincible?

We are one of the few states without any outlet of this type whatsoever.

The guys getting hurt riding are the same guys getting rescued when they dump personal water craft like sea doos. If they had money theyd be sky diving. If they felt particularly patriotic they'd be marines.

This is a common thread among young people and men in particular and they need an outlet for it. If there's not a safe way to chase this feeling they'll do it in unsafe ways, just like everywhere in the world since the beginning of humanity

If not riding then climbing, or surfing, or the service, or fighting, or football, or drugs, or skiing, or banging.

The difference is the dangerous shit white kids do is OK but the dangerous shit black kids do is terrible. If you're white you go to yawgoo if you're brown you ride the streets.

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Proof-Variation7005 t1_jdf0eh9 wrote

Long-term, unless we're going to heavily restrict or outlaw the sale and posession of these vehicles, coming up with a place or a way for it to be done legally and safely is really going to be the only way the illegal and dangerous use goes down.

There's a ton of roadblocks to getting to something like that happening and nothings foolproof, but I don't think we're going to magically make ATVs disappear without trying to tackle the problem that way.

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Dopey-NipNips t1_jdf1fx7 wrote

Yes that's exactly what I'm talking about! We don't have a mx track or anything for young men living in a difficult time who are looking for a dopamine and adrenaline rush

It's not like you'll ever stop young men from doing dangerous stupid shit so maybe we don't have to be the only state where you can't do a little off roading on a bike

If there was a place where you could ride but HAD to wear a helmet and back armor then fewer people would be hurt and killed. Including the people who catch an ass whooping because they happened to be driving their car near these kids

There's no downside and it's stupid that it's not available

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Proof-Variation7005 t1_jdf2is4 wrote

Even a program where you can ride them on streets with certain safety gear and obeying traffic laws and what not would help too. Enforcement based approaches will only go so far and we've already seen it backfire multiple times.

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Dopey-NipNips t1_jdf3jrh wrote

There's not nearly as much fun in that. Part of the appeal is that it's dangerous outlaw tough guy stuff.

I'm an adult and there's guys in every group who push the limits and do dumb shit on an otherwise legal ride. Speeding and wheelies and weaving

Let em do it in the dirt and make them wear all the gear and do badass outlaw stuff somewhere there's no civilians and an ambulance nearby

It couldn't hurt

I'm really passionate about this idea because this 100% could have been me and will probably be my kids if I don't give them an outlet

I have a shitty beater bike I let the kids at work learn on in the parking lot at work. I bet all of them go and do something retarded when they get their own bike, have a bad accident like all of us do, and then get a full dresser old man bike when it's out of their system

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fishythepete t1_jdgbnj8 wrote

Alternately try nutting up and doing what people who like to play with guns do. Start a club, buy some land, and make and take ownership of a place where you can do your dangerous shit without hurting people just trying to get through the day. Imagine if gun owners were just setting up target practice in the streets because “there’s no place to go.”

Shit there’s a place open in Richmond now, but you gotta pay $40 and not be an asshole - probably too much to ask of these fine folks.

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