fusion260 t1_j5jnqb7 wrote on January 23, 2023 at 2:12 PM

So, the majority of your post is 💯 unfortunate and it sounds like a legit bad show and a sucky promoter.

That said, we really should address this part as a Teachable Moment™ for you and others:

> We walked in the heavy rain and cold (38-40 degrees) to this venue […] hypothermia is an understated and very real risk from this situation. My girlfriend happened to be underdressed and we stood in line for an hour (thinking we were late) until 11:20 when we couldn’t take the wait. Her lips were blue, and she was soaked. […] We waited for an hour in the rain and cold and didn’t even make it halfway.

My siblings in [deity or superfluous omnipotent object of your choice], that is completely on you two. Unless you’re under 15 and still living with parents/guardians and need a permission slip to stay out late at night, nobody else is going to dress you. It was cold and raining pretty much the entire day and this wasn’t a surprise little change in the weather.

It is fully your responsibility to check the weather/conditions before going out to make sure you have what you need to protect yourself from the elements.

Just because the venue and security people were moving the line along very slowly doesn’t mean they are responsible for your poor clothing decisions and lack of layers.

I’m glad this completely-preventable case of potential hypothermia didn’t result in an ER visit or worse and I hope it was a lesson learned on how to better prepare next time.

If anything, I guess be glad you bailed before making it in to see a fake show and be even angrier you had a really bad time to apparently see 3 lip-sync songs.

gravy_boot t1_j5jpwsj wrote on January 23, 2023 at 2:29 PM

Jeez man… Feel like you’re being overly tough on them. We don’t know how underdressed she was or if they had umbrellas, but it’s 100% normal and expected for people to dress down when going to packed clubs that don’t have coat checks. Standing in a normal line for 15 min like any of us would expect at a show might have been fine, but it sounds like the club advertised an earlier show, or at least didn’t make it clear what time it was starting, then didn’t let people in til midnight. These are probably kids and honestly OPs post is pretty self aware, all things considered. They could have made better decisions, but this club fucked them over

Ann2040 t1_j5jrx9i wrote on January 23, 2023 at 2:43 PM

Exactly! There’s no coat checks at these places so I make a choice to go without one knowing that I’ll be cold for a few minutes in line. Did the same thing Saturday night for a show. That’s not that happened here at all.

fs2251 t1_j5kej7i wrote on January 23, 2023 at 5:13 PM

When the “doors open at 9:30” and we get there at 10:30 and still waiting in line at 11:30 to a venue that has scammed people before (check their instagram, they are deleting any comments about this shit) in the cold rain, it doesn’t fucking add any merit to your pretentious-ass argument.

also there’s nowhere to put a fucking coat and when you pay money for entry to a building you should be allowed to complain about not getting in a reasonable time or manner.

This subreddit is full of fucking assholes.

especially fusion, they’re the worst

fusion260 t1_j5kq51e wrote on January 23, 2023 at 6:25 PM

Hi, moderator here who approved your comment, despite the personal dig at me for being "the worst."

I'm not victim blaming anyone. It's not OPs fault that the promoter and venue failed to admit people in a timely manner and get them out of the elements fast enough or even at a normal speed. It's pretty clear that myself and others agree that sucks.

What I did do, however, is let OP and others—who may be in this position in the future—know that they have their own personal responsibilities to how they dress in inclement weather. Anyone with a functional nervous system knows that yesterday was cold and rainy pretty much all day. Look out a window, stick a hand out of the door, or maybe look at a weather report. So, in that respect, being underdressed knowing that there will be a period of time one will be outdoors is probably not a "great decision."

If you—the proverbial you and not individual you—go to the beach for an all-day outdoor music festival and didn't pack sunscreen or bring an umbrella or tent and can't find any shade to stand under, yeah, you're gonna get a pretty bad sunburn and/or heat stroke. Both of those things are typically preventable with the right planning.

There are plenty of stories of people getting seriously ill, injured, or dying from being exposed to the elements and not having appropriate clothing.

>also there’s nowhere to put a fucking coat

So just hold it or tie it around your waist or wear it or ask someone else if they can hold it for you. I mean, goddamn. It's not a difficult thing.

Lastly, and I'm saying this as a moderator: take it down a notch.

gravy_boot t1_j5l13kb wrote on January 23, 2023 at 7:33 PM

> If you—the proverbial you and not individual you—go to the beach for an all-day outdoor music festival and didn't pack sunscreen or bring an umbrella or tent and can't find any shade to stand under, yeah, you're gonna get a pretty bad sunburn and/or heat stroke. Both of those things are typically preventable with the right planning.

> There are plenty of stories of people getting seriously ill, injured, or dying from being exposed to the elements and not having appropriate clothing.

You'll be a great dad someday if you're not already - but in this case, they didn't pay for an outdoor experience. They paid for an indoor experience with the implied promise of a reasonable line, which they dressed for. Nobody brings coats and umbrellas to clubs like that when its just sprinkling, because it sucks to have to deal with them inside when it's 90deg and packed with people dancing, and they're likely to get ruined/lost/stolen anyway. OP did exactly what club-going adults have been doing for decades. It's an international standard.

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