Thoughtless_winter t1_j82xi50 wrote
This is basically talking about cognitive empathy, which generally can only be improved through increasing things self awareness and/or working through personal traumas.
TransRational t1_j833l52 wrote
I agree with you, and it makes me wonder about the potential risks/ramifications of newly graduated students having their first experiences with trauma be second hand through their patients. And in turn, how that might affect the patients care if their doctors were in fact affected.
muuhfuuuh t1_j8497zl wrote
During school for clinical psychology, students are actively working on their own stuff while learning how to implement it with clients. And have been actively working with real clients under supervision before graduating. Also post-graduation, in order to have a job you have to be under supervision for a number of years to help mitigate any unintentional client harm.
noweezernoworld t1_j84x7kr wrote
It’s also a presumption that grad students don’t already have their own trauma material to work with! That being said, I do think it is problematic how interns and trainees are thrown into some of the highest need populations.
PsychologicalLuck343 t1_j859jht wrote
How do they weed out sociopaths? Or do they even try?
muuhfuuuh t1_j85dtd9 wrote
There are ethical codes of conduct for psychologists - two of them being, not doing clients harm and doing what’s in the clients best interest. If a student (or any practitioner) is violating them then their ability to graduate / hold a license is on the line. But sociopaths are going to do what they do no matter what school they’re in.
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muuhfuuuh t1_j84998p wrote
During school for clinical psychology, students are actively working on their own stuff while learning how to implement it with clients. And have been actively working with real clients under supervision before graduating. Also post-graduation, in order to have a job you have to be under supervision for a number of years to help mitigate any unintentional client harm.
helm t1_j83dudk wrote
The study is entirely based on "self reported" skills. I have no idea how that is supposed to be an objective measure of metallization. For example. Psychology students think they are hot shit, then train for some years, but reportedly "don't think they have better mentalization", that is, they don't report being better.
But the effect could simply be that they overestimated their abilities as freshmen, and their studies made them aware that the world is more complex than they thought. Thus humbling them.
rogueblades t1_j84oeku wrote
Perception studies do have some amount of value even if the notion of “measuring perception” is inherently imperfect. Sometimes perception studies can reveal interesting gaps between perception and reality. Of course, your observations are things that researchers would consider, And they do complicate the findings of perception studies.
I had an old sociology professor many years ago who was fond of saying “A problem is a problem whether real or perceived“
thisimpetus t1_j874yy6 wrote
Because unless you can demonstrate that a higher percentage of over-estimators specifically become psychologists the probability is an equal number of under-estimators exist. They balance out in the statistical wash.
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