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billsil t1_ja5hs3z wrote

Reply to comment by mayayahee in Rock climbing affects cliff-plant communities by reducing species diversity and altering species coexistence patterns by nnomadic

Mountain bikers destroy trails. At least climbers are pro-environment. Don't leave trash, pick up other people's trash, follow the park rules regarding pets, etc.

New routes are definitely cleaned and there are effects there, but I'd imagine the effects are a lot less than what a hiker would do.

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Reasonable_Ticket_84 t1_ja8zc4q wrote

>Mountain bikers destroy trails.

Where I live, mountain bikers are the ones maintaining the trails both from construction to long term maintenance and cleaning. The dog walkers with their dogs off the lease are the ones trespassing on the trails marked by the state as no pets to go harass wildlife and leaving their empty bottles of soda everywhere.

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nnomadic OP t1_jaa7ktl wrote

Outdoor sports people in general usually do some mutual aid protection of their playgrounds.

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