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bigdork69 t1_irxkx7t wrote

So, Diet Coke gives you a stroke?

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nocjef t1_iryfsnp wrote

Cool. Now do one on alcohol.

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bayesian13 t1_iryrd27 wrote

"From the Abstract Duringan average of 17.4 years of follow-up, 11,597 cases of total CVD (nonfatal myocardial infarction, coronary heart disease (CHD) death, stroke, coronary revascularization, and/or incident heart failure) were confirmed. Added sugar as % energy intake daily (%EAS) at ≥15.0% was positively associated with total CVD (HR = 1.08 [1.01, 1.15]) and CHD (HR = 1.20 [1.09, 1.32]). There was also a higher risk of total CVD associated with ≥1 serving of SSB intake per day (HR = 1.29 [1.17, 1.42]), CHD (1.35 [1.16, 1.57]), and total stroke (1.30 [1.10, 1.53]). Similarly, ASB intake was associated with an increased risk of CVD (1.14 [1.03, 1.26]) and stroke (1.24 [1.04, 1.48])"

So the highest finding was an association between sugar sweetened beverages (SSB) [1 or more servings per day] and Coronary Heart Disease (CHD) with a Hazard ratio of 1.35.

Seems about right. Don't drink soda kids.

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bayesian13 t1_is03qef wrote

so in the extract i posted, diet soda would fall under ASB (Artificially Sweetened Beverages). That had a weaker but still significant link with Heart problems: Hazard ratio of 1.14 for cardiovascular disease (CVD) and 1.24 for stroke.

 

one possible reason why ASB might be associated with CVD is weight gain. while it might seem illogical for ASB consumption to lead to weight gain (no calories right?) scientists think the chemicals in ASB can have effects on our metabolism (lowering it?) which can lead to weight gain. weight gain IS associated with CVD risk.

 

here is one such study https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18535548/ "Consuming >21 ASBs/week (vs. none) was associated with almost-doubled risk of OW/OB (odds ratio (OR) = 1.93, P = 0.007) among 1,250 baseline normal-weight (NW) individuals, and doubled risk of obesity (OR = 2.03, P = 0.0005) among 2,571 individuals with baseline BMIs <30 kg/m(2)."

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Sminada t1_is097f3 wrote

Could someone help me with the following question?

Assuming artificial sweeteners are correlated to an increased risk of heart disease (apparently it is, although not that strongly), did they put in other factors to control for eating behaviours etc.?

It seems obvious that people who consume more diet coke also have a less healthy over-all diet than people who stick to water and tea.

(I'm too lazy too read it all... apologies, if it's in there)

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fatsynatsy t1_is0fcbt wrote

Sorry that doesn't appear to be correct from the quoted abstract results summary., the two conditions are listed as independently associated with the disease outcomes. So either diet coke causes strokes or is associated with other behaviours or factors that do.

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