WalnutWoodLooksGood t1_ison6zt wrote on October 17, 2022 at 3:32 PM

"Dieters"..? Every human being should follow a proper diet, the lack of basic understanding of how nutrition works is astonishing, even worse are the trends that get built around it and enforce very unhealthy obsessions.

ginga_bread42 t1_isqagmy wrote on October 17, 2022 at 10:11 PM

They mean it in the context of people who go on and off weight loss "programs".

WalnutWoodLooksGood t1_isri70w wrote on October 18, 2022 at 4:03 AM

Yes, that's ludicrous. If one is overweight they should obviously work towards losing the weight but following a trendy diet is almost never the way to go. Diets are meant to be sustainable and your body does not care whether it's in keto or not if it's still getting calories in a surplus

ginga_bread42 t1_isrjkex wrote on October 18, 2022 at 4:16 AM

Yeah but changing the way you think about and relate to food is actual work and hard. Doing some crazy fad diet to see results quickly is easy. It's a short term "punishment."

Most people realize they need to move more and eat healthier. So they do that. Then there's a percentage of people who have weird relationships with food. That's a lot to unpack and they may not even realize that's the root of the problem. Applying moral good/bad to food instead of just viewing it as food is an example of that.

I'd argue fad diets are never the way to go. Most people gain the weight back plus some. Then they feel shame and guilt. Some fad diets are promoting disordered eating. Some are flat out miserable even if they work, but no one will do it long term.

WalnutWoodLooksGood t1_isrpplv wrote on October 18, 2022 at 5:23 AM

>Yeah but changing the way you think about and relate to food is actual work and hard.

That's mostly because people, especially older (30s+, can't say I feel old yet but still) lack the basic ability to google. Their sources of information aren't reliable or well explained but they might perceive them as such. Following a diet shouldn't be hard and one planned by an actual nutritionist with the client and with a realistic goal in mind isn't going to make you miserable either.

ginga_bread42 t1_iss1944 wrote on October 18, 2022 at 8:00 AM

You're right but also oversimplying the problem a lot of people have. No amount of science, research and nutrition knowledge is going to help you if your problem with food is how you relate to it. Food isn't just food to people. It requires extra steps and maybe even therapy.

I'm not someone who feels things like guilt for eating certain things. I dont feel that I'm good or bad depending on what I ate. For the people that do, changing their diet is more difficult because they have this other mental component. Emotional eaters aren't going to logic their way into health without also dealing with the emotional aspect.

WalnutWoodLooksGood t1_iss26k9 wrote on October 18, 2022 at 8:14 AM

I'm not talking about addiction, I'm talking about nutrition. If you have mental issues it's obviously not going to be fixed by a google search, if you're obese and want to lose weight on the other hand, that will.