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NotYourSnowBunny t1_isstjum wrote

I think I’d seen a study linking people with schizophrenia to being more likely to have COVID or a severe infection. Does anyone have that link?

As someone who never got sick I always thought it was odd how mental illnesses and infection were linked.

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VistaCruiserJesus t1_ist2ptv wrote

This is totally me spitballing, but I wouldn’t be surprised if schizophrenic people are on average higher stress. Higher levels of cortisol will decrease the strength of your immune system.

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DrAdubyale t1_isuq8bv wrote

That's the thing. There are so many plausible hypotheticals that its hard to tell. Like that makes perfect sense. But so do a lot of other options

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MikeWalt t1_isuyhf7 wrote

Is say it's more likely that schizophrenics are living in communal spaces (shelters etc) and working low wage jobs which tend to be higher risk for infection.

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NotYourSnowBunny t1_ist34a0 wrote

Interesting. I’ve no idea what the correlation was from and I don’t have the study on hand.

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Strict-Ad-7099 t1_iste5am wrote

As someone who caught it twice (in spite of vaccines), it affected my cognitive function for about three months post infection. Between feeling uncertain if memories were actually real/dreams, forgetting what I was saying constantly, and a major inability to focus - I became pretty depressed. I assume the high anxiety and depression people with long COVID have comes from both the symptoms and the mechanisms of COVID.

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leahcantusewords t1_isu062c wrote

A little anecdote, my fiance has fairly severe schizophrenia, but is very well treated and managed. When she got covid, she caught it while outside wearing a mask. Her covid symptoms were horrible and she probably should have gone to the hospital (but she didn't). She also gets sick alllllll the time, covid aside. Only an anecdote but it was related to your posed question.

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Absolute_Walnut69420 t1_isyb1xj wrote

I believe that certain mental illnesses in certain cases can be stimulated by an immuno inflammation response

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fireindeedhot t1_isu1h8x wrote

Toubasi et al., 2021 A.A. Toubasi, R.B. AbuAnzeh, H.B.A. Tawileh, R.H. Aldebei, S.A.S. Alryalat A meta-analysis: the mortality and severity of COVID-19 among patients with mental disorders Psychiatry Res., 299 (2021), Article 113856

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youth-in-asia18 t1_isugky3 wrote

this is just spit balling, but if you do enough studies you’ll find some spurious correlations

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roostertree t1_isyq2jd wrote

>if you do enough studies you’ll find some spurious correlations

That's not sound reasoning. Poorly designed studies make poor results, not the frequency of study. I'm amazed a moderator has let it stand.

"I braked so much OF COURSE I hit something."

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youth-in-asia18 t1_isytcqx wrote

not sure how that isn’t sound. there’s a whole field of statistics dedicated to controlling for this type of statistical error within studies, why would it not be true of studies on a meta-level?

i agree that most studies i see here are poorly designed. so you’re right, you do enough poorly designed studies you’ll find some spurious correlations.

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roostertree t1_isz784h wrote

Good point. I likely underestimate the amount of COVID study going on. Maybe too many craptastic "freedom convoy" tweets have passed my eyeballs.

Though I am disappointed that "could"s and "may"s make such big headlines, which helps drive speculation..

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youth-in-asia18 t1_iszj4fx wrote

yeah it’s honestly upsetting, i would like r science to be about science but instead it seems to have mostly a large bias towards sensationalism and a small bias towards neoliberal politics

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