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twisted_cistern t1_iv226e1 wrote
I thought this questing was resolved with the investigation that violin faeries prefer living in old violins.
Perhaps their next research project can focus on why modern violins sound better than Stradivarius violins.
https://www.science.org/content/article/million-dollar-strads-fall-modern-violins-blind-sound-check
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Hrmbee OP t1_iv1q4jc wrote
Link to the original research, "A Nanofocused Light on Stradivari Violins: Infrared s-SNOM Reveals New Clues Behind Craftsmanship Mastery"
https://pubs.acs.org/doi/full/10.1021/acs.analchem.2c02965
Article abstract:
>It is well-known that all the phases of the manufacturing influence the extraordinary aesthetic and acoustic features of Stradivari’s instruments. However, these masterpieces still keep some of their secrets hidden by the lack of documentary evidence. In particular, there is not a general consensus on the use of a protein-based ground coating directly spread on the wood surface by the Cremonese Master. The present work demonstrates that infrared scattering-type scanning near-fields optical microscopy (s-SNOM) may provide unprecedented information on very complex cross-sectioned microsamples collected from two of Stradivari’s violins, nanoresolved chemical sensitivity being the turning point for detecting minute traces of a specific compound, namely proteins, hidden by the matrix when macro or micro sampling approaches are exploited. This nanoresolved chemical-sensitive technique contributed new and robust evidence to the long-debated question about the use of proteinaceous materials by Stradivari.
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Haterbait_band t1_iv3prm2 wrote
Anecdotally, I often roll my eyes at some of the differences in sound with similarly constructed instruments. I’ve heard lots of ridiculous theories that make one instrument sound different than another. Usually, they sound pretty similar.
Has_P t1_iv4gtpz wrote
To a trained musician who is very experienced at an instrument, the difference is often more noticable. Part of training often involves listening carefully to music, which allows the brain to notice more subtle differences over time.
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Hrmbee OP t1_iv1pqsx wrote
>A recent paper published in the journal Analytical Chemistry reported that nanoscale imaging of two such instruments revealed a protein-based layer at the interface of the wood and the varnish, which may influence the wood's natural resonance, and hence the resulting sound. Meanwhile, another paper published in the Journal of the Acoustical Society of America showed that the better resonance of older violins produces stronger combination tones, which can also affect the perception of musical tones. > >... > >It's the varnish that has received the most attention in recent years. The theory dates back to 2006 when Joseph Nagyvary, a professor emeritus of biochemistry at Texas A&M University, made headlines with a paper in Nature claiming that it was the chemicals used to treat the wood—not necessarily the wood itself—that was responsible for the unique sound of a Stradivarius violin. > >Specifically, it was salts of copper, iron, and chromium, all of which are excellent wood preservers but may also have altered the instruments' acoustical properties. He based his findings on studies using infrared and nuclear magnetic resonance spectroscopy to study the chemical properties of the backboards of several violins (the backboard is the instrument's largest resonant component). > >... > >While prior research largely focused on the chemistry of the varnishes, Chiaramaria Stani of the Central European Research Infrastructure Consortium (CERIC) and co-authors were keen to take a closer look at the treatments used before varnishing the instruments to fill the outer pores of the wood. It's a matter of considerable academic debate since some studies found just a layer of drying oil between the varnish and the wood. Other studies using chemical staining and gas chromatography showed the presence of proteins—most notably animal glue (collagen) found in two early 18th-century violoncellos, and casein found in a 1730 violin. Traces of unidentified proteins were also detected in violins from 1677, 1706, and 1720 using staining tests.
This looks to be some pretty interesting research on some of the other wood treatments that might have been used in the preparation of the wood before and during the construction of these instruments and ultimately may be of aid to future luthiers as they work to improve their processes.