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Jealous-Pop-8997 OP t1_ixqyh9i wrote

Yeah I agree but I think what it comes down to is that any way of farming that will be safe is going to require more labor and community involvement in peoples' own food production. but people have become acclimated to delegating the food production to mass producers so they can have easier lives.

I mean food prices have drastically dropped over the last 100 years since food production became hyper industrialized, to the point that the quantity of labor that actually goes towards feeding oneself is an all time low across world history. They're acclimated to super cheap food (with the health costs they're largely unaware of). People complain that the costs went up 10% or so as a result of inflation. It will be even more expensive than that if its not produced industrially with harmful compounds

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fasthpst t1_ixx7kgq wrote

That massive leap in efficiency came from mechanization. The minor contribution of pesticides is not worth the chronic exposure of our population.

Organic agriculture needs to be properly optimized. Soil science is where it's at.

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BlackViperMWG t1_iy2winy wrote

> Organic agriculture needs to be properly optimized. Soil science is where it's at.

But those two doesn't support each other. You can't really have healthy soil when farming organic at large scale. And you need more of it.

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