T1germeister t1_iylo5o5 wrote
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I grew up on a musical diet of basically pure classical, and only branched out from that in high school. I barely hear lyrics when I listen to modern music, unless the lyrics are so clear that parsing them completely passively works. Strong emotions can come through the music itself just fine.
Sure, lyrics are nice to tell a story if you really need that, but if you can't convey the emotional journey without the lyrics, then you're really doing little more than talking while accompanied by cool-sounding muzak.
AndHeHadAName t1_iylqpl1 wrote
Then you are not listening to very cogent lyrical music. I'll admit the lyrics are not always the first thing I notice and sometimes I'll be listening to a song regularly for months or even years before I notice words that flip the meaning of the song in its head, but i generally find weak lyrics almost always belie a weak song.
Additionally being raised on classical music is not necessarily a good way to be raised on music as it's a very limited genre that has not progressed for 200 years. 95% of the greatest classical musical was written before 1827, and music since evolved to things like Opera and folk (Beethoven's late strings were his attempt to move music passed the classical era). Post 1827 classical music generally is concerned with technical arrangements that while being impressively difficult to play, have limited emotional range. In some ways very similar to much metal music, which often claims late romantic era composers as influences. Camille Saint Saens advocated for as much at the time, though he was actually a bit of an exception since he at listed acknowledged the lack of classical musical direction following the death of its final great composer.
T1germeister t1_iynk65u wrote
> I'll admit the lyrics are not always the first thing I notice and sometimes I'll be listening to a song regularly for months or even years before I notice words that flip the meaning of the song in its head
So you've found yourself ignoring the lyrics of a song for years on end, but "lyric ambivalence is a terrible way to engage with music" and "weak lyrics almost always belie a weak song." Noted.
> Additionally being raised on classical music is not necessarily a good way to be raised on music as it's a very limited genre that has not progressed for 200 years.
I never said it was a good way to be raised on music--it was for context regarding a different perspective. But, I'll definitely keep that in mind from the "I listen to weak music in a terrible way for years on end" guy. And yes, classical not progressing for over a century is... kinda how it works, yes. I fail to see the relevance.
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