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venomousbones t1_j1e5h1o wrote

I saw an article recently saying that cannabis does not have any pain relieving effects other than people's perception https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/02/health/marijuana-pain-control-wellness/index.html

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AllhandsOnHarry t1_j1eb7jj wrote

Your perception is all that matters, though. Perception of pain is perception of pain? How much pain do you perceive while high? Less. Perception.

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Hanifsefu t1_j1ffwo8 wrote

I went in to look at the study that the article was based on. The results were essentially that there was a significant placebo effect in their double blind trials where people on placebos reported significant pain reduction. They also made a connection between usually high media attention on the subject to the significant placebo effects they observed.

They ultimate conclude there is a gap in the current research that needs to be filled by high-quality clinical trials before they can recommend it for pain relief.

It seems legitimate unfortunately but it still is just a call for more research on the subject which is exactly what it needs and that research will just give us a more complete picture on why it works.

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AllhandsOnHarry t1_j1fider wrote

Not sure how you could possibly have a placebo group for a psychoactive substance. Like you are 100% going to know if you got a large dose of thc.

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Hanifsefu t1_j1g60s4 wrote

Thankfully the world of science isn't limited to just your understanding otherwise we'd never be able to study anything.

"I don't understand it" is not even a real argument. That's just burying your head in the sand refusing to learn and assuming everything outside of your bubble of knowledge can't be true.

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AllhandsOnHarry t1_j1gfh1j wrote

What an incredibly rude reply. I honestly feel bad for you.

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Fit-Anything8352 t1_j1flj9s wrote

No it doesn't. By that logic religion (praying for less pain) is an effective pain relief technique. Drugs are classified according to their actual effects on people, not on people who convinced themselves to stop feeling pain independent of the drug with a placebo effect.

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Phoenix042 t1_j1ebw5d wrote

But pain itself is a perception...

Altering that perception is the important part of treating pain. Blocking pain receptors is irrelevant in comparison.

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Fit-Anything8352 t1_j1flrae wrote

If you can will yourself to perceive less pain independent of the drug then you don't need the drug. Substitute a sugar pill and convince yourself to feel less pain the same way. That's what the placebo effect is.

If you were developing a new pain medication and in a clinical study you found that 50% of the control group felt less pain and 50% of the group who took your drug felt less pain, you would classify your drug as ineffective, because it doesn't do anything. Not as 50% effective because everyone felt less pain.

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Somebody__Online t1_j1el3x1 wrote

Are you perceiving pain? Smoke this, now are you perceiving less pain?

Seems like it’s working to manage pain then

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