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Padhome t1_j208w8g wrote

Reply to comment by Elfthis in Anti-transgender legislation associated with suicide-related Internet searches when the state had a high LGBT population density. by Respawan

Yeah but the causal link is so obvious. It's been known for years that trans people have higher rates of suicide when they are blocked from transitioning.

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Ravatu t1_j20t7yt wrote

I read that the studies most relied on to come to this conclusion show that people with gender dysphoria are more likely to answer "yes" to "Have you ever considered suicide?"

This has been interpreted as "gender dysphoric people are more likely to commit suicide."

It makes me wonder how much of this increased interest in suicide is driven by the normalization of suicidal thoughts as a response to medical policy (by the media). Would this study have the same results if we hadn't told young people that they are more likely to commit suicide by being trans?

If you have a source for actual higher rates of suicide, I would be curious to read it. If you're curious for a source on the "commit" vs. "consider", I can dig it up.

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Netan_MalDoran t1_j228ztg wrote

Well this may surprise you, but statistically, people with gender dysphoria have higher quantities of other mental illnesses. And more often than not, when the other issues are fixed, the gender dysphoria goes away.

At the end of the day, there are much fewer people who are ACTUALLY transgender once all other issues have been properly fixed.

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Neurotic_Bakeder t1_j22iwyi wrote

Source please!

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Netan_MalDoran t1_j22ojfg wrote

Here's one study I found. They were determining if gender affirming care helped reduce mental illness and suicide and had looked at correlations of the two in Sweden.

Ultimately a correction to the study was published that they were unable to determine if gender affirming care helped or not, but the raw data from the study appears to still be useful.

https://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/10.1176/appi.ajp.2019.19010080

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Neurotic_Bakeder t1_j22rfkj wrote

? I don't know if you read a very different study than I did but that's not what this seems to say.

The purpose of this study was to track anxiety & mood disorder prevalence among trans people, by looking at rates of treatment/medication, and to see if hormone treatment or surgery had an effect on the rates of mental health treatment trans people seek out.

They found that most people getting hormone therapy for a long time seek out mental health support at about the same rate as those who have just started. For surgeries, they found that, the more time that passes since that surgery, the less mental health support trans people seek out. That indicates that gender affirming surgery is helpful and has a positive effect on trans people's mental health.

You are correct that trans people experience mental health struggles at a higher rate than others, but you've got it backwards - once you support the gender issues, the mental health stuff gets easier.

DOI that comes up for your link: https://doi.org/10.1176/appi.ajp.2019.19010080

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Nivekuh t1_j22tj3c wrote

It’s common knowledge that people suffering from gender dysphoria also suffer from higher levels of impacted mental health (likely as a result of gender dysphoria in the first place, as mentioned in the study you linked), but do you have a source for your second, much less intuitive statement?

The study and data only suggests that gender-affirming surgeries may reduce suicide attempts and utilization of mental health treatments, and doesn’t at all support your statement that gender dysphoria disappears when mental health issues are addressed (even after the corrections, the authors pretty much say the opposite, in fact - that mental health is expected to improve when gender dysphoria is addressed).

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