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jonathanrdt t1_j601rd7 wrote

Reply to comment by chrisdh79 in Moral disapproval mediates the relationship between compulsive sexual behavior and religiosity by chrisdh79

So, repressing natural urges via moral disapproval is more likely to elicit compulsive sexual behavior than a healthy approach to sex?

Stands to reason. Good to prove and know.

Now if we could just use some of this knowledge to inform public policy, we might make some real progress.

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MEMENARDO_DANK_VINCI t1_j63gas7 wrote

Probably something to do with the call of the void and scarcity thinking pushing the psyche into a loop

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clericalclass t1_j63noyw wrote

Or could it be the same behavior leads to more distress in one person compared to another. One person might have no problem viewing porn daily while a religious person might become distressed by the behavior.

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AnOddFad t1_j61jjx4 wrote

I’m skeptical of this interpretation. Behaviour can’t be both repressed and compulsive at the same time.

It could simply mean that people who dislike their own sexual desires, for one reason or another, gravitate towards religions that also disagree with those sexual desires and therefore assume God also dislikes it.

There are reasons why people might not like their sexuality aside from God you know.

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dr-freddy-112 t1_j623v07 wrote

It's about shame. When you feel ashamed for wanting sex, you repress it and the issue becomes worse. It then leads to compulsive behavior. This is basic psychology.

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DocRough t1_j63i4yr wrote

>gravitate towards religions that also disagree with those sexual desires

Ah yes, the most common form religion takes: freedom of decision! What a way to interpret the results of this specific study about rigid rules and their connection to impulsive behavior against those rules.

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AnOddFad t1_j63in1a wrote

We’re all obsessed with blaming religion for everything aren’t we?

Atheism isn’t a cure for compulsive behaviour, it just enables it at best so it’s no longer called “compulsive”.

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DocRough t1_j63j0k3 wrote

If the dominant cultural forces around the world get together to yell various doctrines to their followers and those doctrines are problematic in so many obvious ways, should we ignore it? You keep believing religions aren't hypocritical. Ill keep going over to guy's houses with crosses on their wall to hook up without learning their names sweety.

Or should we pretend that atheism is a monolith that can even be described by overarching morals or even ways to live?

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AnOddFad t1_j655mi7 wrote

Atheists can be hypocritical too, you are hypocritical because you’re sleeping around whilst complaining about compulsive behaviour.

You’re actively encouraging said behaviour, whilst blaming religion for it.

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DocRough t1_j656giv wrote

What says I am compulsive about casual hookups? Ive gained immense knowledge talking to other sexually liberated people that allows me to do so in a controlled, knowledgeable way. I don't have to hide it from the people around me so I have access to social support networks that keep me from doing harm to myself and others.

I am quite confident when I say you are one of the people that talk a lot about these things while having next to no experience. I wish I could just insert the level of first-hand knowledge I have interacting sexually with other humans into you and make you realize sex isn't as scary or gross as you believe. But if you stay in your bubble you'll always believe that boogieman is scary!

Alternatively, we could ban sex ed and pretend like waiting til marriage is a commonly practiced thing that should be enforced morally else you are a lesser human. Then when humans DO act on their sexuality out of internal tension building up and snapping they can make desparate, rash decisions.

Which sounds more healthy?

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AnOddFad t1_j65dxof wrote

I’m glad you’ve found a way to do it safely that has worked (so far), but ofcourse it’s scary, the fact such support is even needed is scary. Sexual diseases are scary. Becoming addicted to sex is scary.

It is a dangerous lifestyle, and I don’t think I could recommend it to anyone.

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