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just-a-dreamer- t1_j73fx1n wrote

People also didn't care about the poor, old or infirm in the 1920's. Or blacks. They all lived pretty much horrible lifes. Such is human nature. Nobody cares untill it hits you.

Job losses in the middle class during the great depression kicked off the new deal programs under FDR. Because people were angry and people could vote.

As long as unemployment is at 3%, nothing changes. When unemployment is at 25%, we are talking business concerning UBI.

Politicians are in a business to buy votes, if nobody wants UBI, why would they push for it?

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ttylyl OP t1_j740eys wrote

The issue I’m seeing is that the populations would be in two and a half classes: unemployed low skill people, employed high skill people(things needed after AI, so like notaries, maybe doctors, entertainers, people to work on/monitor AI) and AI owning people(large investors in openai, connected people, etc.)

Eventually they will realize that using their ai/robot labor power to feed house and fund the unemployed lower skill people doesn’t help their goals, so they will spend less over time. This will happen faster with competition, the more you spend on the non-ai owning class, the further you get behind the people who don’t.

If this continues the unemployed former working class will be functionally pushed from society, they won’t be able to use their work as a method of negotiation, like labor unions etc. our lives will be at the whim of people who already clearly don’t care if we’re poor. What happens when they don’t need us at all?

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just-a-dreamer- t1_j741g23 wrote

You have one vote, so that is up to you. I don't know what else to say.

There is no evil conspiracy that keeps people from voting. One man still has one vote and can cast it for whatever purpose he sees fit.

FDR won election not because people were poor, he won because they were poor and unemployed and he offered relief.

Any politician that offers relief, UBI eventually, would get voted in.

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ttylyl OP t1_j741p1y wrote

Mate we’ve been voting for a while and we just keep getting poorer while our productivity skyrockets.

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just-a-dreamer- t1_j742bb0 wrote

Looks like the wrong people get voted in. So we must do better then.

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lovemysunbros t1_j74ec5l wrote

If you cant see we are in a 2 party dictatorship with two parties that agree on domination of elites over masses (and little else matters to them), you are blind. Voting is a sham bruh.

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ttylyl OP t1_j74njlq wrote

Voting is an opinion poll for the elites riot tax(five just enough so they don’t flip).

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ttylyl OP t1_j742llq wrote

I’m of the opinion that maybe it’s intentional none of the people we are able to vote for end up helping us.

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just-a-dreamer- t1_j743f43 wrote

In my time on this world I learned people care little outside their family life and work budies networks.

As long as there is just 3% unemployment, there is no demand for politicians to change anything.

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