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Surur t1_j8nyugk wrote

It is not right that we will merge into a single entity. We have no idea what will happen. One thing that is certain is that we will definitely die without the singularity, and the singularity actually gives us a shot at immortality.

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wastedtime32 OP t1_j8o06y8 wrote

Death gives life meaning. Immortality is infinite suffering.

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Surur t1_j8o203a wrote

> Death gives life meaning.

There is a theory that people only say this because they know they will die, and if they actually had the option of immortality, they would grab it with both hands and feet.

The truth is that life has no meaning, and you are just here to enjoy the ride. If you enjoy the ride you may want to stay on a bit longer.

> Immortality is infinite suffering

You always have the option of checking out.

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Hotchillipeppa t1_j8o8wi3 wrote

I argue your experiences give life meaning, and having 10x longer lifespan removes societal expectations on what you should and shouldn’t have done depending on your age

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danysdragons t1_j8svovw wrote

The idea that death is a blessing because it gives life meaning seems like Stockholm Syndrome to me.

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Anonymous_Asker0813 t1_j8p22wt wrote

But an infinite amount of time? Can we even comprehend that?

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Surur t1_j8p3sg1 wrote

You wont have to worry about that, as you would change over time. You 1000 years in the future would be a very different from you now, as you are different from how you were 10 years ago.

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dasnihil t1_j8oa690 wrote

that "meaning" you think that exists out there was made up by us as a coping mechanism.

biological species operate on physics/chemistry and some species are already immortal, some live for hundreds of years, and some for a few seconds.

try to come out of your bubble of tribal constructs to see more clearly.

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wastedtime32 OP t1_j8p143x wrote

I just told you what the meaning was. It’s not religious by any means. The only meaning there is derives from our awareness of a restriction on our ability to be.

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dasnihil t1_j8p1in4 wrote

Word mumbo jumbo.

A human child who is entirely kept from the knowledge of death is equally sentient and aware and more meaningful than our redundant lives. Your theory fails in many ways, I'm just pointing out one.

We're just used to being mortal. Once we're not, we'll just create new meanings around immortality to cope with existence, that one is not going away whether we're mortal or not.

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wastedtime32 OP t1_j8p2ch8 wrote

I have a question for you. If I want to live on a farm and raise a family and work and make things for myself, and I’m not restricting anyone else’s ability to do whatever they want, should I be allowed? Or should I be forced to commit myself to this new utopian world? If it’s a utopia, shouldn’t everyone be able to do exactly what they want to do?

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KillHunter777 t1_j8p75v9 wrote

You will be allowed to do exactly that. What are you arguing against?

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wastedtime32 OP t1_j8p9ug8 wrote

Whoops, responded to the wrong person.

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dasnihil t1_j8pc2o0 wrote

same answer, nobody is going to force immortality on you, except maybe the AI overlords, but that's for harvesting reasons and not in our control anyway.

if you find existence as suffering, then it's fine to not crave living forever, i understand.

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GhostInTheNight03 t1_j8olu4o wrote

Death voids meaning and makes your life virtually pointless

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aVRAddict t1_j8oqnaa wrote

So does digital immortality. You will end up in an infinite pleasure loop or eventually be destroyed by some accident or the end of the universe anyways.

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