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Unfocusedbrain t1_j8fcuq2 wrote

Reply to comment by Frumpagumpus in Altman vs. Yudkowsky outlook by kdun19ham

> Also I don't think it will be complete utopia but definitely way cooler than our society is. More vitality/thought/energy, less of a doomer/malthusian vibe

I believe the same. After a certain point the sole-currency becomes energy, space, and matter. There isn’t an infinite amount of it, but for human purposes there are and so it will feel like complete utopia/communist paradise. If AI can build anything with enough matter and energy, and can allow any place to be habitable, well that eliminates currency except for really extreme scenarios.

I think at macro level there will be questions of “Who pays the cosmic water, energy bill and rent?” At that point it would be in the hands of AI systems so far advanced that they can manage those concerns without issue.

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Frumpagumpus t1_j8ffc5p wrote

assuming there is a future I think there will still be something analogous to currency that facilitates trade, though our currency essentially is a scalar and it's possible future currency will be a matrix or a vector (e.g. add some extra values to represent externalities or something). maybe essentials of energy/space/matter would be extremely cheap though, although it's possible with massive computational speedup in thought there could also be an increase in consumption of some combination of those as wells by whatever agents inhabit the society. idk really hard to say but I'm betting on a dyson swarm of some kind lol (hard to imagine what that much energy could be used for other than like super powerful simulations though). Can also imagine literal mind viruses or some scary shit like that.

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