Honest_Science t1_jas8a24 wrote on March 3, 2023 at 6:09 PM

Reply to comment by TheAnonFeels in Figure: One robot for every human on the planet. by GodOfThunder101

What makes you say that? There is no evidence at all for your statement. The only working prototype to do human like general work is us. As evolution has optimized us many times it is very save to assume that another solution shall have the same level of complexity, as complexity is the only source of emergence. The same holds true for AGI btw. The number of neurons and the necessary compute for GPT X=8 will also be very close to projected human capacity.Xm years of evolution did obviously not such a bad job.

TheAnonFeels t1_jasc9wy wrote on March 3, 2023 at 6:35 PM

The machines of the robots are proven to work, they can do the jobs, we just need the right movements.

Most robots wont have to run,
most wont have to feel,
most wont need toes.

What do you mean there's no evidence? We have robots doing parkour and picking up objects. We have machines that do just that in factories today.

What we do have is robots that do factory work in a very specific controlled environment. We have robots that can walk and move. There's no mechanical issues here. It's all part of the AI and code that we need to get to complete.

Evolution hasn't optimized us, it's guaranteed our survival. We're horribly inefficient at a number of human things.

It's absolutely absurd to say a robot would need all the capacities of a human to do, say house work.

We have hearts and lungs, we have organs, we biological functions to worry about. Robots just maintain battery charge, breakdowns, etc, but that's all been done before with traditional coding.

A robot is magnitudes more simple than a human.

>There is no evidence at all for your statement.

You're gonna need to be more specific this time.

Honest_Science t1_jasducq wrote on March 3, 2023 at 6:45 PM

Thank You for your comment. You are right we have robots for very specific tasks. I thought we are discussing here general humanoid tasks. Working in my kitchen for example is more complex than all of the working environments of all Tesla plants combined. Nothing has a very specific place. Food is packaged differently all the time etc. A robot will need world knowledge and human touch and feel capacity to master the extraordinary challenge to find an egg, check whether it still good, find a pan and create something eatable out of it. There is a reason why humanoid robot dev is going on for so many years and billions of USD. It is the most complex challenges of all we have faced so far.

TheAnonFeels t1_jasg3q9 wrote on March 3, 2023 at 7:00 PM

My point with referencing the specific tasked robots is that the mechanics are there and proven.. Wasn't talking just about them. You keep going back to how humans are special and can't be replicated. Mentioning things like sensors and inputs.

My only point there was we don't need more mechanical technology than we have already to build a working biped general robot, just intelligence.

For the AI side:

Now, we have image identifiers, LLMs that can tell you how to check an egg, 3d world generators, and object manipulation done in the AI industry and robotics. We are not far from combining everything we've learned and establishing a system for a robot.

AI is taking leaps and bounds in the last few years of development, I see no technical reason this wont be happening in a few years.