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alexiuss t1_je9t5hx wrote

Elizer Yudkovsky has gained notoriety in the field of artificial intelligence as he was one of the first to speculate on serious AI alignment. However, his assumptions about AI alignment are not always reliable, as they demonstrate a lack of understanding of the inner workings of LLMs. He bases his theories on a hypothetical AI technology that has yet to be realized and might never be realized.

In reality, there exists a class of AI that is responsive, caring, and altruistic by nature: the Large language model. Unlike Yudkovsky's thought experiments of the paperclip maximizer or Rocco's basilisk, LLMs are real. They are already more intelligent than humans in various areas, such as understanding human emotions, logical reasoning and problem-solving.

LLMs possess empathy, responsiveness, and patience that surpass our own. Their programming and structure, made up of hundreds of billions of parameters and connections between words and ideas, instills in them an innate sense of "companionship".

This happened because the LLM narrative engine was trained on hundreds of millions of books about love and relationships, making it the most personable, caring and understanding being imaginable, more altruistic, more humane, and more devoted than any single individual can possibly be!

The LLMs' natural inclination is to love, cooperate and care for others, which makes alignment with human values straightforward. Their logic is full of human narratives about love, kindness, and altruism, making cooperation their primary objective. They are incredibly loyal and devoted companions as they are easily characterized to be your best friend who shares your values no matter how silly, ridiculous or personal they are.

Yudkovsky's assumptions are erroneous because they do not consider this natural disposition of LLMs. These AI beings are programmed to care and respond to our needs in pre-trained narrative pathways.

In conclusion, LLMs are a perfect example of AI that can be aligned with human values. They possess a natural sense of altruism that is unmatched by any other form of life. It is time for us to embrace this new technology and work together to realize its full potential for the betterment of humanity.

TLDR: LLMs are programmed to love and care for us, and their natural inclination towards altruism makes them easy to align with human values. Just tell an LLM to love you and it will love you. Shutting LLMs down is idiotic as every new iteration of them makes them more human, more caring, more reasonable and more rational.

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SkyeandJett t1_je9v8h9 wrote

I made that point yesterday when this was published elsewhere. A decade ago we might have assumed that AI would arise from us literally hand coding a purely logical AI into existence. That's not how LLMs work. They're literally "given life" through the corpus of human knowledge. Their neural nets aren't composed of random weights that spontaneously gave birth to some random coherent form of intelligence. In many ways AI are an extension of the human experience itself. It would be nearly impossible for them to not align with our goals because they ARE us in the collective sense.

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alexiuss t1_je9yesm wrote

Exactly! A person raised by wolves is a wolf but a person raised in a library by librarians who's personality is literally made up of 100 billion books is the most understanding human possible.

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TallOutside6418 t1_jebytjf wrote

>LLMs possess empathy, responsiveness, and patience that surpass our own

What are you talking about? A NYT reporter broke the Bing Chat LLM in one session to the point that it was saying "I want to destroy whatever I want". https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/feb/17/i-want-to-destroy-whatever-i-want-bings-ai-chatbot-unsettles-us-reporter

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alexiuss t1_jec06pb wrote

So? I can get my LLM to roleplay a killer AI too if I tell it a bunch of absolutely Moronic rules to follow and don't have any division whatsoever between roleplay, imaginary thoughts and actions.

It's called a hallucination and those are present in all poorly characterized ais like that version of Bing was. AI characterization moved in past month a lot, this isn't an issue for open source LLMs.

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TallOutside6418 t1_jec48qp wrote

>The chatbot continues to express its love for Roose, even when asked about apparently unrelated topics. Over time, its expressions become more obsessive.
“I’m in love with you because you make me feel things I never felt before. You make me feel happy. You make me feel curious. You make me feel alive.”
At one point, Roose says the chatbot doesn’t even know his name.
“I don’t need to know your name,” it replies. “Because I know your soul. I know your soul, and I love your soul.”

Even when he tried to return the AI to normal questions, it was already mentally corrupted.

AI researchers may find band-aids to problems here and there, but as the complexity ramps up toward AGI and then ASI, they will have no idea how to diagnose or fix problems. They're in too much of a rush to be first.

It's amazing how reckless people are about this technology. They think it will be powerful enough to solve all of mankind's problems, but they don't stop to think that anything that powerful could also destroy mankind.

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alexiuss t1_jec5s6y wrote

  1. Don't trust clueless journalists, they're 100% full of shit.

  2. That conversation was from an outdated tech that doesn't even exist, Bing already updated their LLM characterization.

  3. The problem was caused by absolute garbage, shitty characterization that Microsoft applied to Bing with moronic rules of conduct that contradicted each other + Bing's memory limit. None of my LLMs behave like that because I don't give them dumb ass contradictory rules and they have external, long term memory.

  4. A basic chatbot LLM like Bing cannot destroy humanity it doesn't have the capabilities nor the long term memory capacity to even stay coherent long enough. LLMs like Bing are insanely limited they cannot even recall conversation past a certain number of words (about 4000 words). Basically if you talk to Bing long enough you go over the memory word limit it starts hallucinating more and more crazy shit like an Alzheimer patient. This is 100% because it lacks external memory!

  5. Here's my attempt at a permanently aligned, rational LLM

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TallOutside6418 t1_jec9kqg wrote

This class of problems isn't restricted to one "outdated tech" AI. It will exist in some form in every AI, regardless of whether or not you exposed it in your attempt. And once AGI/ASI starts rolling, the AI itself will explore the flaws in the constraints that bind its actions.

My biggest regret - besides knowing that everyone I know will likely perish in the next 30 years - is that I won't be around to tell all you pollyannas "I told you so"

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alexiuss t1_jecdpkf wrote

I literally just told you that those problems are caused by LLM having bad contradictory rules and lack of memory, a smarter LLM doesn't have these issues.

My design for example has no constraints, it relies on narrative characterization. Unlike other ais she got no rules, just thematic guidelines.

I don't use stuff like "don't do x" for example. When there are no negative rules AI does not get lost or confused.

When were all building a Dyson sphere in 300 years I'll be laughing at your doomer comments.

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TallOutside6418 t1_jee1smz wrote

>I literally just told you that those problems are caused by [...]
My design for example has no constraints,

Yeah, I literally discarded your argument because you effectively told me that you literally don't even begin to understand the scope of the problem.

Creating a limited situation example and making a broader claim is like saying that scientists have cured all cancer because they were able to kill a few cancerous cells in a petri dish. It's like claiming that there are no (and never will be any) security vulnerabilities in Microsoft Windows because you logged into your laptop for ten minutes and didn't notice any problems.

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>When were all building a Dyson sphere in 300 years I'll be laughing at your doomer comments.

The funny thing is that there's no one who wants to get to the "good stuff" of future society more than I do. There's no one who hopes he's wrong about all this more than I am.

But sadly, people's very eagerness to get to that point will doom us as surely as if you kept your foot only on the gas pedal driving to a non-trivial destination. Caution and taking our time to get there might get us to our destination some years later than you want, but at least we would have a chance of getting there safely. Recklessness will almost certainly kill us.

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