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BigZaddyZ3 t1_jebxmik wrote

Reply to comment by agorathird in There's wild manipulation of news regarding the "AI research pause" letter. by QuartzPuffyStar

Yeah… because plastic manufacturers totally considered the ramifications of what they were doing to the world right? All those companies that were destroying the ozone layer totally took that into consideration before releasing their climate destroying products to market right? Cigarette manufacturers totally knew they selling cancer to their unsuspecting consumers when they first put their products on the market right? Social media companies totally knew the products would be disastrous for young people’s mental health, right? Get real buddy.

Just because someone is developing a product doesn’t mean that they have a full grasp on the consequences of releasing said products. For someone who seems so against capitalism, you sure put a large amount of faith in certain capitalists…

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agorathird t1_jebykbw wrote

Suuure, this would track. If only the same businesses men running the companies were also scientists and the people developing it lol. AI companies have the best of three worlds when it comes to people who are at the helm. Also, social media is just an amplifier of the current world we live in. Most tech is neutral, thinking otherwise is silly. But I still don't think the example is comparable.

I'm not against capitalism. I love markets and stopped considering communism a long time ago as most of it's proponents conflict with my love for individualism. If you're a communist then how don't you know the difference between the managerial parts of the company and the developers?

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BigZaddyZ3 t1_jec0gun wrote

I never said I was a communist… Your first comment had a heavy “anti-capitalist” tone to it.

And lol if you think AI companies are somehow immune to the pitfalls of greed and haste… lol. You’re stuck in lala-land if you think that pal. How exactly do you explain even the guys like Sam Altman (senior executive at OpenAI) saying that even OpenAI were a bit scared about the consequences?

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agorathird t1_jec1fq5 wrote

I never said any of that. I just don't think it's sci-fi doomsday that's incentivized, especially if you have all the data in the world for prediction. But alas, no amount of discussion or internal risk analysis will some satisfy people.

Being scared doesn't mean you think you're incapable. Even so, I think Sam Altman tends to not put on a disagreeable face. Your public face should be "I'm a bit scared." as to not rock the boat. Being sure of yourself can ironically create more alarmism.

This whole discussion is pointless though. Genie is out of the bottle, I'll probably get what I want you probably won't. The train continues.

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