WhoSaidTheWhatNow t1_jcj7tb5 wrote on March 17, 2023 at 5:45 AM

Reply to comment by a4mula in Offbeat A.I. Utopian / Doomsday Scenarios by gaudiocomplex

Deranged, nonsensical garbage like this is why so many people write off any concern about AI safety as unhinged luddite doomerism.

a4mula t1_jcj80wp wrote on March 17, 2023 at 5:48 AM

Surely if it's nonsense, you can point out the flawed reasoning? I don't mind having a fair and considered discussion with you, while having no need to judge your perspective or call into question your state of mind.

But it has to be respectful both ways.

gaudiocomplex OP t1_jck2o3w wrote on March 17, 2023 at 12:22 PM

Why is a call for fair and considered discussion getting downvoted? Fuckin reddit sometimes man.

Supernova_444 t1_jcnguqe wrote on March 18, 2023 at 2:43 AM

I'll bite. Why would an AGI/ASI just decide, without being instructed to, to emulate human behavior? And why would it choose to emulate cruelty and brutality out of every human trait? The way you phrased it makes it sound like you believe that mindless sadism is the core defining trait of humanity, which is an extremely dubious assertion. Even the "voluntary extinction" people aren't that misanthropic. Most people who engage in sadistic or violent behavior do so because of anger, indoctrination, trauma, etc. People who truly enjoy making others suffer just for the sake of it are are usually the result of rare, untreated neurological disorders. An AI may as well choose to emulate Autism or Bipolar Disorder.

I think that scenerios like this are useful as thought experiments to show that the power of AI isn't something to be taken lightly. I think it's one of the least likely situations, and I don't think you actually take it as the most likely possibility, based on the fact that you haven't committed suicide.

Spreadwarnotlove t1_jcsv084 wrote on March 19, 2023 at 8:34 AM

What nonsense. Deep down everyone is sadistic and just pretend not to be to fit into society. AI could very well pick up on this as it's trained on human knowledge and text.

Supernova_444 t1_jdaxn5j wrote on March 23, 2023 at 2:06 AM

That... that is completely insane, I'm sorry. Do you actually believe that?

Spreadwarnotlove t1_jdbcipq wrote on March 23, 2023 at 4:09 AM

Explain the popularity of AFV and other violent entertainment? Or the countless atrocities in history and why it never been hard to find people happy to do it? Truth is everyone is bloodthirsty. That's why the powerful created religion to control people and create a semblance of stability.