tms102 t1_ir9gp0u wrote on October 6, 2022 at 10:00 AM

> ASI sees itself as a conscious living organism, which means it (also) values survival and reproduction.

Why would it see itself as a conscious living organism?

Just because something can understand things and work on a super intelligent level doesn't mean it has to have its own will, agency, or sentience.

OneRedditAccount2000 OP t1_irat14u wrote on October 6, 2022 at 4:37 PM

You're assuming super intelligence can exist without consciousness, and even if it could, then the human beings that create the first ASI will just use it to dominate the world.

If I made ASI, and ASI was just a tool, I would know ASI can be a substitute for human skills, knowledge and qualities. So I wouldn't need human friends anymore.

I would know that people would hunt me down the next second they find out that I have an ASI. What do you think my next move will be? Ah, that's right. I'm gonna tell ASI to help me get rid of the assholes that want to steal my precious ASI (every state/government on earth pretty muchI. And since I have a delicate brain, I'm also gonna ask ASI to do some surgery and make me into a psychopath, so I won't care anymore that I'm murdering people to protect my property.

ASI not being sentient and under human control doesn't change jackshit, the next logical step is still world domination.

You people keep bringing this "the ones that invent asi will sell asi to everybody else"

Money is just a piece of paper that represents human labor/services,

if you have an ASI you don't need money or people anymore. In the beginning you will, but eventually you will become self sustaining. When that happens people will just get in your way.

tms102 t1_iraxwxv wrote on October 6, 2022 at 5:09 PM

You need help.

>You're assuming super intelligence can exist without consciousness, and even if it could, then the human beings that create the first ASI will just use it to dominate the world.

AI hasn't needed it so far and produced amazing results. See alpha fold, alpha go, imagen, gpt3, etc.

OneRedditAccount2000 OP t1_irbs18a wrote on October 6, 2022 at 8:34 PM

These programs aren't even AGi. But ok fine whatever. You're gonna have a program that will tell you every single thing about the universe and you're just gonna share it with everybody, that sure makes a lot of sense. It's totally not the most retarded thing I've ever heard. It's like the US inventing nukes and then just giving them to Russia.

You need to get real. This is a dog eat dog world, not a rainbow pony world. At our core we're just selfish organisms trying to survive. If someone had a super AI he would just use it to attain wealth and power and you know it. And if you think sharing the program with the world is the best way to attain wealth and power you truly are retarded. There's nothing profitable in selling ASI long term. You make more out of it by keeping it to yourself. The AI would eventually be able to give you anything that you desire. Why would you share that with anyone? You can use it to live forever and own the whole world. You can only do that if everybody else doesn't have an ASI.

If I'm an advanced alien civilization and I visit planet earth, do I give humans all the technologies and knowledge they need to compete with me? No, because why in the world would I want anyone to compete with me? ISn't that suicide?

Wake up to reality