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crua9 t1_ist5dv4 wrote

Reply to comment by AdditionalPizza in Will OpenAI's improved Codex put programmers on the chopping block? by AdditionalPizza

>But how long would it take to train someone to get the prompts down?

You're missing what I'm saying by miles. AGI in theory if built right you could say to the program "I want an android app that does x", and that's all the info it needs. Like human coders I wouldn't down you need revisions. So a manger could say, "the client wants x" and it makes the change as if they were talking to a developer.

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On the client or manger side it is more than less the same. Most managers over coders now have no idea about coding.

If it can't be that dead simple, I don't think you will see a wave of coders losing their job due to automation.

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AdditionalPizza OP t1_ist6m5x wrote

Sorry, I know what you're saying. My question was posed as "without AGI" as in between now and whenever AGI becomes a reality, if coding actually writing code from text prompts gets simple enough then anyone could do it.

I really see no reason an AGI would be needed for that, a narrower AI that specializes in text to code would be more than sufficient. You don't need the AI to physically go and meet/discuss with clients.

Maybe we're just in disagreement on the level of AI needed to do enough automation toward programming to cause layoffs in the industry.

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crua9 t1_ist7qwv wrote

>My question was posed as "without AGI" as in between now and whenever AGI becomes a reality, if coding actually writing code from text prompts gets simple enough then anyone could do it.

It won't happen. At least not at first. Like it would be a generational thing. Think of fully remote work. Studies have shown it massively reduce the cost of running a company, the employees are far more productive, the employees are far more loyal, and so on.

What we both are talking about will kill off middle management. Just like what they are doing with remote work, execs and middle management will fight tooth and nail for this to not be a thing.

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Like if it was as simple as you make the tool and people will use it. Then yes. But it has to be so dead simple that it has to spit out an app under a minute or the CEO kid needs to use it and tell their parent about it. OR DAO have to take over (companies ran by software/AI).

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