AdditionalPizza OP t1_it4w71z wrote on October 20, 2022 at 11:21 PM

Reply to comment by SgathTriallair in If you believe you can think exponentially, you might be wrong. Transformative AI is here, and it is going to radically change the world before the Singularity, and before AGI. by AdditionalPizza

>so long as the courts don't recognize AI legal advice and the public feels more comfortable getting a real lawyer, a good AI lawyer program won't make a big impact.

That's the same point everyone misunderstands. Transformative AI != full automation off the start.

It will replace the lawyer's law clerks. How many law clerks can say "Well I'll just use my skills and become a lawyer" though? Very few. They will be unemployed. This will happen across all industries. Rapidly, and more advanced versions will come out faster and faster.

We have LLM's that can nearly do this, released earlier in the year. There will probably be push back, don't get me wrong. But the Lawyers that choose productivity and money over employing the people below them will take on more cases, earn more money, get better advice, choose better clients to win more cases.

SgathTriallair t1_it4wztp wrote on October 20, 2022 at 11:27 PM

Transformation of society can't happen until society adopts the AI. The potential for change can be there but it takes widespread adoption to become actualized.

We already built out an AI, years ago, that was able to help people get out of parking tickets by giving them the right legal advice. It hasn't been widely adopted though so no major change has happened to society.

I agree that TODAY we could automate a lot of lower white collar work but we won't do it because the decision makers don't want to automate away their jobs. Hell, I'm watching my company go backwards on automation because they want a "human touch" which is just slower and sloppier than the partially automated system they are abandoning.

We need some key disrupters to enter the market, like Uber, Amazon, etc. and then things will cascade quickly.

AdditionalPizza OP t1_it4ygqu wrote on October 20, 2022 at 11:38 PM

I can see the argument here for sure. But it's not up to general society. Corporations will do this first. Think nearly all support chat and calls as a start. When you call now you get a shitty robot that you have to push buttons to get through, or chat that you have to try and get to a human. Those would be replaceable today, and save enormous amounts of money. All that takes is a small LLM a corporation could train on their products/services.

Decision makers that see the dollar signs absolutely will. They outsource products overseas with inferior quality because they don't care. They reduce consumable product sizes and charge more money for them because they don't care. When their quarterly profits go up, they don't care how the customer feels.