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User1539 t1_ituja10 wrote

Reply to comment by AdditionalPizza in With all the AI breakthroughs and IT advancements the past year, how do people react these days when you try to discuss the nearing automation and AGI revolution? by AdditionalPizza

I don't think it's a matter of foresight. We could tell the leader of every country 'Full automation will happen June 23, 2035', and they'd still do nothing about it. Humans are reaction based actors. We create the mess, then we clean it up. It's just in our nature.

Like I said, at least in America, we do actually already have systems for handling these things. All we'd need to do is raise taxes on the people not hiring workers, to pay for the social security they'd all be receiving.

More socialist countries will just keep doing what they're doing. There are already countries with raw materials that send a check to everyone every month. They'd increase those payments.

Then you have the countries with basically no infrastructure. At first I'm sure the excess resources would be hoarded, and of course there were no jobs there to begin with. But, eventually, there's just no benefit to hoarding things people need, if no one is ever going to buy that stuff off you anyway.

So, I really don't worry too much about it. Not everyone is working now, and it's really just a numbers game as they shift from 70% of a country having a job, to 50%, 30%, etc ...

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AdditionalPizza OP t1_itulozg wrote

>I don't think it's a matter of foresight.

What you describe thereafter is exactly foresight, just not on an individual scale. Governmental foresight with implementing security nets.

The US has mega rich corporations, but a lot of countries don't. However the US also has a pretty large population compared to other fully developed countries. Social security has been the target for stripping down over the years, and with the generation currently reaping its benefits, projections show younger generations will be with less. But that's more political than I care to dive into. And may not be the case in the US, I'm not from the states I'm north of the border.

I think cracks will form though, sure we have systems for unemployment, but those systems haven't been tested for crises levels of unemployment. It also begs the question of UBI being available, while some people continue to work.

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User1539 t1_itut0f2 wrote

> What you describe thereafter is exactly foresight, just not on an individual scale. Governmental foresight with implementing security nets.

Well, not foresight. Those safety nets are already in place from having reacted to other disturbances in employment.

We haven't really done a single thing to change those existing systems to better handle what's coming, and I don't think we will.

It's just not in our nature.

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