mutantbeings t1_ix1myl9 wrote on November 20, 2022 at 1:24 AM

Reply to comment by Wassux in The time it took to get to the moon. by Redvolition

I love your comment because you’re cracking the surface on why universal basic income is actually just a band aid on neoliberalism, because it perpetuates the same ideology of the system we have now that your needs should still be a commodity that you must buy.

Universal basic welfare is the answer to that; which simply gives people everything they need to survive and undermines the oppressive neoliberal logic that everything in life should be bought and sold, even the most fundamental needs everyone has to have access to in order to survive.

The rich hate UBW because it reduces their ability to spend UBI on luxuries and reduces their ability to profit off of other peoples UBI spends. So it is talked about way less.

The logic of commodification is by no means a given or any kind of truth; but we are socialised extremely strongly to think that anything different is impossible. Not true at all.

Wassux t1_ix1nnd3 wrote on November 20, 2022 at 1:29 AM

See this is something I can get behind.

mutantbeings t1_ix1oudp wrote on November 20, 2022 at 1:39 AM

If you are interested in more, I always found this commentary good food for thought on the way UBI shores up some of the darkest parts of our existing economy

Frankly I would still support it, but yeah I’m not fooled that it can be anything but a temporary measure on the way to a proper UBW. And am all too aware that it could even make that goal even more difficult.