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adamsky1997 t1_j1ttca3 wrote

Reply to comment by Longjumping_Pilgirm in Driverless cars and electric cars being displayed as the pinnacle of future transportation engineering is just… wrong. Car-based infrastructure is inefficient, bad for the environment and we already have better technologies in other fields that could help more. An in depth analysis by mocha_sweetheart

Dude take a vacation to Barcelona, London, Berlin... you will see for yourself.

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mocha_sweetheart OP t1_j1tu7wa wrote

Yeah, it’s extremely US-centric and acts like we haven’t had solutions for these things in other places

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enilea t1_j1tvmcd wrote

I live in one of those cities and still rely on cars to take me to work because it's in another city and the nearest train station is still too far away. Plus having to take a combination of bus, metro and train ends up taking two and a half hours vs less than an hour on car. Around the city I use public transportation everywhere, but I'd rather have my own private space to transport myself, it's annoying being closely sorrounded by strangers and having to wear a mask inside.

A network of connected public self driving cars would be a good solution, just hop in any any of the empty cars and hop off when you arrive at your destination, leaving it available for someone else.

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adamsky1997 t1_j1txt3f wrote

Yeah thats because you probably live in Croydon, not London proper lol

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enilea t1_j1tzlq0 wrote

Opposite, I live in the city center and the offices are in some industrial area in the middle of nowhere.

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adamsky1997 t1_j1ukiar wrote

If we're talking singularity offices will be obsolete to start with...

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mocha_sweetheart OP t1_j1u4ra3 wrote

That's just bad car-based city planning which is exactly what I'm complaining about

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Longjumping_Pilgirm t1_j27ncj7 wrote

I am not talking about the big cities. Setting up a alternative transportation system in the more sparsely populated areas of the US is what I am talking about. I have been to Paris and rode their subway everywhere and rode the train out to Versailles and the Musee De La Grande Guerre so I do see that a good train infrastructure could help because I could literally go anywhere I need to go using the train and my own two legs but most of the track and infrastructure to make that work in the US has long since been removed. A great many rail lines would need to be rebuilt and then expanded. This is a map of railroads in my current state in 1920, which is I think the height of railroads in Michigan. This is a map of railroads now, and most of those are freight only also - as far as I know, the only passenger lines left in Michigan are the Amtrak lines I just linked. It is clear to see that using, say, highspeed electric railroads, at the very least would require HUGE investment.

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