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ghomerl t1_izb3wrz wrote

You fucking wont lol. Capitalists will push for UBI, as they already are, in order to keep their power. The people will need to seize the means of production, either through revolution, or through stealing AI technology from companies and open sourcing it.

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Diaza_Kinutz t1_izb5pzx wrote

They'll probably cull the workforce once we're no longer needed.

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Demiguros9 OP t1_izb65ib wrote

Yeah. True. Humans would just be inefficient by that point. Let's hope for UBI.

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TheSn00pster t1_izbc08w wrote

Remind me where UBI money might come from? Tax dodging capitalists? Cutthroat politicians? Benevolent algorithms? I wouldn’t count on it.

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Demiguros9 OP t1_izbcjat wrote

I mean you have to start taxing them higher. It's inevitable. People would die if they don't.

You think politicians only operate for their own good right? Me too!

So think of it this way. When no one has a job, people will ask for money. The politicians that give the people UBI will be the ones getting the votes. So the politicians will make UBI for their own gain.

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There are only so many loopholes. I'm sure if you tax something on each unit produced or something, it would go better.

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TheSn00pster t1_izd5hwo wrote

What’s stopping companies from just moving to a country that doesn’t mandate UBI?

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Rook2135 t1_izbcftg wrote

I believe the threat of revolution will push these companies to throw the peasants a bone sort of speak. Perhaps universal income or perhaps open source Ai systems given to all for use, as an illusion of power. The problem is most people are tok dumb or ignorant to understand this very real issue today. It’s the frog in boiling water analogy, by the time people realize AI’s effect it would be too late

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Demiguros9 OP t1_izb4kt3 wrote

I'm rich. Lol.

I'm not working a job. I own a ton of land, I'm a landlord. Have a few alcohol retail stores. Plus a few other businesses.

I just want to see how to make money in the future.

I have plenty of money that I wish to invest.

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Diaza_Kinutz t1_izb5sni wrote

Yeah I agree with the other guy fuck you.

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Demiguros9 OP t1_izb5x0p wrote

I don't understand why. I didn't do anything wrong.

As I have already said, I'm not unethical. I didn't hurt anybody.

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ghomerl t1_izb5dh3 wrote

oh well then fuck you, you asked about a normal person

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Demiguros9 OP t1_izb5obk wrote

Why? What did I do?

I'm not unethical. I didn't screw anyone over.

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Sea-Advertising-3408 t1_izb6imp wrote

Seems like you’re looking to play the victim here. Congrats on attaining wealth surprising people are so quick to hate but maybe present it in a less bragadocious way. Also your question seems disingenuous considering you have lots of money

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Demiguros9 OP t1_izb711u wrote

I didn't want to seem like I'm bragging. My apologies if it seems that way.

I'm not insanely hyper rich. Just above average rich. Not that far above the normal person.

I thought I would get more answers presenting it in this manner. More responses that way. I don't think I would get as many answers if i presented it in a different manner.

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srasmus97 t1_izb6b2n wrote

  • "I didn't screw anyone over"
  • Is literally a landlord
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Demiguros9 OP t1_izb7s48 wrote

I don't raise prices every other day like others do.

I give my tenants plenty of time when they make late payments. I once had a tenant pay me 3 months late. I allowed him because there was briefly a time where my father struggled to make payments on my school fees, I do feel sympathy you know.

Also keep everything in good condition.

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ghomerl t1_izb6gq9 wrote

The only thing you can think about with the emergence of the most radical technology change in the history of the world, that could be used for the benefit of all of humanity is "how can I get rich off this." AI needs to belong to humanity.

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Demiguros9 OP t1_izb7gdr wrote

I'm not stopping that. That's great. Primary reason I joined this sub is cause I want to see how this will help ALL of humanity.

Making some money off of it isn't a bad thing. Not like it would hurt it in any way.

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ghomerl t1_izb943p wrote

See my other comment. When everything is fully automated, money should not exist.

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Demiguros9 OP t1_izb6jsr wrote

You edited the comment. So I'll reply to the second part here you get the notification.

I'm rich. Not rich rich.

I'm closer to you than I am to the companies that are gonna rule AI (Microsoft, Google and others). I can't do things on that level.

My capability in this field would be closer to a normal person.

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ghomerl t1_izb8paa wrote

To be clear, im not pissed about you being rich, im just pissed about how instead of solving the problem and bringing wealth to all of society (including yourself), you just want to be part of the ruling class. If everything can be fully automated, money has no place in society. Instead of thinking about how you will go from being one of the 99.9% on UBI to the 0.1% who have unimaginable riches, you should think about how we as humans will allow ALL humans to benefit from the unimaginable riches.

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Demiguros9 OP t1_izb940u wrote

If that happens then I would be extremely happy. I would be very much content with that future where everyone is rich and money is useless.

But if shit goes sideways and it's a post apocalyptic thing for poor people, then I'm sorry. I'd like the backup of being rich enough to be a part of that society. Especially considering the fact that it's just gonna get harder to make money after a while.

You have to understand. I have to at least have a backup plan for myself.

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ghomerl t1_izb9otk wrote

Yeah, that's understandable, but I think you know why people here are so mad at you lol.

Idk invest in dogecoin or something

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ghomerl t1_izbau51 wrote

But yeah i would kill myself if I was in a space hotel with jeff bezos watching the poor people die

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Deformero t1_izb3jh0 wrote

Maybe on realisation or even hyperproduction of your own ideas with help of AGI? If it does all the work all you need to do is direct it properly.

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Inferno_Crazy t1_izbc4ha wrote

It depends I think for next couple generation it will just increase our productivity through specific tooling.

I think once we crack true AGI. People will outright be replaced by technology in some roles. I still feel there's a chance development in this research area may plateau but I'm not banking on it.

If we are smart I don't doubt we will hit a certain point where AI development becomes illegal. As we won't be able to handle it.

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