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AndromedaAnimated t1_j1hm546 wrote

I am sorry in advance for what I will say. Please bear with me.

This is something that really irks me.. I am prone to the same hypocritical tactics that you are using here. And I hate that in myself. Like your „I am no authority [insert authority implying title here]“ - sorry mate, I know what you are doing here, I do it all the time too and I am even of „lower academic rank“ since I only have a diploma (ancient German version of Master‘s degree), but come on, just state your degree without the „I am a good guy since I put a disclaimer, but actually I know more than you mere mortals“. It makes you look like a covert narcissist. And makes you less believable, not more. I am trying to get rid of this habit and I wish other people would too.

So now that I have gotten this off my heart, the actual answer:

Humans are prone to hype. This subreddit is one where humans like to dream. It is not a professional forum. If you want scientific discussion, you are better off talking to your colleagues or going to a SPECIALISED subreddit. And no, this is not some wisdom of an all-knowing old Redditor. This is psychology. Simple human psychology.

Just let the guys dream here, ok? And go to the machine learning subreddit to discuss machine learning how it really works. This subreddit is not for elitists, I guess 😉 So let’s try and be nice to those not in the field.

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fortunum OP t1_j1hoskr wrote

I am explicitly stating my bias, as in I am a student under people who believe the singularity is far away. I am saying I am no authority because I don’t study singularity or AGI, a PhD or Professorship or other titles do not implicitly make you more qualified to talk about just any subject, maybe that is a problem that you project here.

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DaggerShowRabs t1_j1iew72 wrote

Do the people above you also talk about an AI winter like you have been?

If so, your mentors are dumbasses.

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AndromedaAnimated t1_j1hqhya wrote

I am just reading what you write. If I project or not is not of interest here. Please don’t try to divert the attention to me.

You don’t have to accept criticism or feedback.

But your post would have been much more interesting and also more believable if you didn’t state your authority.

And you did. You mentioned your professional field which is tied to the topic. You said explicitly that AGI is not going to happen and that most posts are factually wrong (and that is where I even start to smell a „pretend-scientist“ as in empirical science, there are working hypotheses, theories, but not facts - and even theoretical science prefers „axiom“ to „fact“).

You are sounding like an elitist who is no better than the people you criticise. Plus, you are getting the purpose of discussion wrong if you think saying something „factually“ wrong is a bad thing in a discussion. You don’t even provide ONE argument for what you are saying except you being in machine learning and you and your colleagues not talking about singularity.

You didn’t provide original thought here (I read sooo many posts like yours here lately), and also no interesting articles.

Jet you criticise the dreaming laymen on this sub.

Oh well. You don’t want feedback, then don’t take it.

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