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sartres_ t1_j57n0fl wrote

Reply to comment by Fmeson in Google to relax AI safety rules to compete with OpenAI by Surur

No, I doubt they'll reduce their "safety" restrictions. They have a lot of interesting experiments and they never release any of it. They never even use it. It's endemic to the culture, they've been doing it for years. Remember when they showed off AlphaZero, totally upended the chess AI world, refused to release any of it or use it again, and dropped the project?

We'll end up getting LaMDa and Imagen as a $10k corporate subscription that's somehow still more locked down than ChatGPT, and in a few years google execs will be scratching their heads when Microsoft owns the AI market.

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Spire_Citron t1_j58xvfv wrote

Wait, they wouldn't even release a chess bot? Lame.

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visarga t1_j59temu wrote

Current day chess bots surpassed that level long ago. Google made themselves irrelevant.

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croto8 t1_j5818iu wrote

That’s nothing like they’re current operating model, and many of the shuttered projects were intentionally just PoCs and for PR.

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sartres_ t1_j58hu38 wrote

They don't have a business model for stuff like this. While most of their products are free and consumer-oriented, Google does have an enterprise ecosystem, mainly Google Cloud. They're bad at it and losing to AWS/Azure but they do try. If they go consumer I can also see another Stadia-type disaster. The AI team does not like the general public and there's no way they'll go with a scheme like Docs or gmail.

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croto8 t1_j58i6vp wrote

Waymo, virtual assistant that integrates with google calendar and gmail, improved/interactive google searches, and dynamic advertising are all more obvious implementations based on their track record.

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sartres_ t1_j58k1nb wrote

Those sound like good ideas. The search integration, I think, is inevitable since Microsoft is doing it. But that's not what they're doing right now, they're doing things like "an application called Maya that visualizes three-dimensional shoes" and "tools to help other businesses create their own A.I. prototypes in internet browsers . . . . which will have two “Pro” versions." These are not using their advances to their potential. I could be wrong, but I see this going poorly.

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Superschlenz t1_j58kwtr wrote

>The AI team does not like the general public

Maybe someone should tell the AI team that paid finetuners cost money.

Guess they already know that chatbots without massive RLHF can be toxic.

Seems that OpenAI has successfully utilized one million unpaid beta testers for the job.

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Fmeson t1_j581u5o wrote

Chess AIs are cool, but just a tech demo. There is a reason why they were fine with Leela baeically open sourcing their approach without response. They don't make money.

Om the flip side, ChatGPT has widespread consumer appeal. It's a completely different thing.

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