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heyimpro t1_j3ivpft wrote

Reply to comment by turnip_burrito in Organic AI by Dramatic-Economy3399

Thank you that was great. After listening to your perspective I definitely agree that the best case scenario would be a central, aligned agi. But it just doesn’t really seem probable unless debates like this become the absolute forefront of discussion. The philosophical rabbit hole is so deep. Waiting till an agi has the answer will probably be too late

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turnip_burrito t1_j3iwhlk wrote

I could also be off-mark, as I said. It is maybe possible the better elements of an AGI empowered populace can keep the more immoral parts in check, in sort of balance. But I wouldn't want to risk that. And as you just said, we need to have a good logical discussion about good strategies as a community, and model and simulate the outcomes to see where our decisions might land us.

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AndromedaAnimated t1_j3j0j44 wrote

Very off-mark. extremely so.

Your reasoning is political and not philosophical or based on computational science. Sorry but verbosity and eloquence (Chapeau! You do have talent) doesn’t make one right.

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turnip_burrito t1_j3j2zra wrote

Thanks for the compliment, but I am trying to make a point with my words, not just spew fluff. I do think there is logic in them. If you want to ask me to elaborate instead of saying they are just baseless, then ask and I will.

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AndromedaAnimated t1_j3j5vzy wrote

That’s why I am talking to you - I do think we are actually… on the same side? 😁 I do try to discuss. I hope you see that.

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turnip_burrito t1_j3j6pr1 wrote

Yes, thank you. I think one problem is we've developed some different baseline assumptions about human nature and power dynamics, and it leads to different conclusions. It's possible your or my approach takes this into account more or less accurately when compared to the real world. Your comments are making me think hard about this.

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AndromedaAnimated t1_j3jfmj4 wrote

You make me think too - otherwise I wouldn’t have bothered. It’s all good. We have a chance here to spread the word, to inspire discussion. Thank you 🙏

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AndromedaAnimated t1_j3j00ya wrote

Wait with agreeing with her/him please. The „central AI“ is the worst possible scenario as our stories are already telling us. It is the way to the ultimate, unchangeable rule of the 1%.

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