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rocketsocks t1_it8xyf6 wrote

Highly trained pilots are still subject to the same cognitive biases that most folks are. The important thing is whether or not the claims are evaluated rigorously and scientifically. And every single time that the due diligence is put into these claims the result is that the "UFO" is identified as very likely something else such as a balloon or another plane.

This alone is a problem because it completely inverts the burden of proof. The burden should be that the very first step is to put in the rigorous work to identify anything it might be that is a mundane explanation, and only then to put together a strong case of positive evidence that there is something odd and unexplainable going on. However, that's not the way these things have been going. Instead the typically pattern is a half-assed investigation at the level of "I dunno, it looks weird" followed by jumping to the conclusion that something that "looks weird" must be an alien spaceship or a classified spy plane or something. And so instead it falls to a small group of amateurs to actually put in the work and then they'll come back and say "oh yeah, this is actually a video of another plane, and here's the exact plane it was", which is an unreasonable level of burden for them, but that's the sorry state things are in because so many people are so biased toward wanting to believe these things are alien spacecraft.

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ryanq99 t1_it8z15j wrote

I am overly skeptical about everything. 2 years ago I would have scoffed and rolled my eyes at anyone even considering ufo stories to be legit.

My natural inclination is absolutely not to believe in ufos. The opposite. Naturally, I think it’s complete bullshit.

I now think there are too many accounts from reasonable people to just completely write them off.

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rocketsocks t1_it90s35 wrote

OK, go watch Mick West's videos on youtube and get back to me. The evidence really is not there, at all, it's universally a lack of rigor that is being filled in by a bias toward extraordinary interpretations.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and the evidence is very much lacking.

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ryanq99 t1_it91ltp wrote

I will watch. Any specific video to start with?

Also, there is no extraordinary claim. No claim at all actually... What I am talking about is testimonies of witnessed phenomenon that have actual video and data. There is no conclusion, we dont know what it is.

There are anomalies in the data. It is up to us to use the data to come to a conclusion.

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ryanq99 t1_ith4qm4 wrote

Thanks for the resources, his explanations do make sense to explain civilian sightings but not for the US Navy sighting.

They see planes all the time, they fly them. The sensors and recordings picked up something not recognized by the Navy which is why this is a big deal. They 100% know of every vehicle in their airspace, it’s not possible for it to be a plane.

The other videos of civilians claiming to see a “tic-tac” all look like planes. The one from the US Navy does not look like a plane. I have a hard time believing it’s a lens flair and none of their experts considered it. There was sensor data and eye-witness accounts from 4 pilots. It’s not a flair.

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