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Mo-Cance t1_irj1zb3 wrote

Reply to comment by SublimeEcto1A in Continent-Size Dust Storm on Mars Threatens to Shorten NASA InSight Lander's Last Days by Sariel007

Mars colonization has its benefits, but an Elon-led effort is certainly resorting to cannnibalism and human sacrifice with about a week.

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BillHicksScream t1_irk8ayh wrote

>Mars colonization has its benefits,

No, it does not. Economics gets to step in here. There aren't adequate resources for human survival without complex technology that you cannot duplicate locally. A canoe to a ship is not a major change & they both have a huge source of resources. No space tech is simple and reliable except as a tiny part of a complex hole.

Colonies are self sustaining, with trade fueling their growth. There are no cheap food, shelter & clothing sources? You are dead eventually. No, we will not be mining, its too expensive.

This is it. This is our home. Its way better than anything else no matter what.

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Mo-Cance t1_irk93it wrote

Exploration always has benefits. The knowledge gained in setting up our first extraterrestrial colony will be vital in the progress humanity will need to make to truly survive in the long term.

Never mind that science and exploration continually open up new economic doors for us all.

No one says that Earth isn't important, or that our ability to survive on it isn't vital. Best not to have all of our eggs in one basket either.

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BillHicksScream t1_irkn81s wrote

>colony

It will never be a colony. Only outposts doing research, just like antartica.

No one will have children on Mars, so it aint a colony that way either. This would be a human rights violation.

These are great responses. This Lab of Science & Reason & Ethics is loving the clarity it creates.

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_alright_then_ t1_irkhq5r wrote

The point of colonizing Mars is to develop the technologies required to make it a colony, in turn those technologies would change life on earth as well.

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BillHicksScream t1_irkmmmx wrote

>The point of colonizing earth is to develop the technologies required to make it a colony

Is this miswritten? I don't understand.

For me, anyone serious about Mars ends up at a required room for progress. That room is the Lab of Science, Reason & Reality, LLC. And the Lab studies the desire & says "Doesn't work, cannot help". If the serious person actually cares, they ask "What is possible?" and help expand the amazing work our hands are making already, which we send to Space safely, cheaply & with the greatest of outcomes by default: every single attempt is humanity at its peak, making this the most important planet in the universe.

Anyone who keeps going is either deluded or a schemer.

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_alright_then_ t1_irm9bln wrote

Yes that was miswritten, that was obviously meant to be mars.

The benefit of trying to colonize Mars is developing the technologies required for it. That's what space exploration has always been about and this time it will change life on earth again if those technologies are actually realized.

Space exploration doesn't need people like you, if everyone thought like that we wouldn't get anywhere.

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BillHicksScream t1_irmpdsm wrote

>The benefit of trying to colonize Mars is developing the technologies required for it.

That logic is no better. "The reason this exists is so it exists."

>Space exploration doesn't need people like you

Reality and Reason aren't required for science?

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_alright_then_ t1_irmq3ke wrote

You seem to have no idea what benefits space exploration has had on your daily life. The things that will come out of it will 100% benefit everyone.

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