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cloudjianrider t1_ixdx2kh wrote

Reply to comment by Hydra57 in Bruno Le Maire: Europe needs ‘unwavering unity’ against China, US in space by Soupjoe5

Saved their asses twice and not for their good manners

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LaunchTransient t1_ixe4nv1 wrote

They helped significantly in your war of Independence

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cloudjianrider t1_ixf4pxm wrote

Yes so why are we lumped in with China? James Webb for instance was a collective effort by space agencies all around the world and I’m pretty sure it was sent into space with a French rocket. We’re supposed to be a team!

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LaunchTransient t1_ixf5msl wrote

>We’re supposed to be a team!

I've explained it elsewhere, but in short its because the US behaves very erratically towards Europe. Sometimes you are friendly, other times you are threatening to pull out of Nato. Your companies are often very predatory, and the US has frequently put itself in positions where it tries to take advantage of Europe or dictate Europe's foreign policies.

While Europe would like it always to be a friendly relationship, we know that the US's ambitiousness means we can easily fall prey if we aren't wary.

And FWIW, the US isn't viewed in the same light as China, we just don't want to be dominated or be reliant on you.

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toodroot t1_ixf81wx wrote

We're discussing Bruno Le Maire lumping the US in with China, it's right there in the headline and the article.

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toodroot t1_ixf7tlf wrote

Europe also provided one of the JWST's instruments.

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Shorzey t1_ixdyfm5 wrote

>Saved their asses twice and not for their good manners

Way more than twice

The Libyan war and US involvement in it was a direct result of France wanting Libyan oil and its long history of bloodshed with Gaddafi throughout Africa

Vietnam was a collapsing French colony that they gave up on after a decade of assistance was provided to them by European allies and America. America just went WAY too far with it and used it for its own political dealings because of trash presidents

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