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Reddit-runner t1_ixduohm wrote

If at least this project gives us Europeans a fully reusable rocket system, I'm all for it.

However I think such a project will face insurmountable challenges:

  • idiots will claim this would accelerate global warming
  • idiots will be against it because it would reduce Europes dependence on foreign fossil fuels. And we can't have that, can we?
  • idiots will claim the energy transmission via microwaves will be 100% deadly to anything (look at the other comments...)
  • many will be against it because it would "ruine the night sky"
  • every 5G idiot will run amok
  • etc.

Edit: spelling

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MrM0jave t1_ixedl86 wrote

Luckily, as with anything that’s spawned similar mindsets, they will do nothing about it and it’ll work out fine

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Reddit-runner t1_ixeihg4 wrote

The same idiots are quite successful in blocking wind and solar in southern Germany.

And without full German support the EU/ESA will not be able to launch such a project.

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Saar_06 t1_ixhugnc wrote

Based on what? Seems to me you're just getting annoyed at imaginary people here :v

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Reddit-runner t1_ixhv4ch wrote

The points about global warming and microwaves being deadly were already made in the comments. That's why I wrote my comment.

Edit: spelling

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Saar_06 t1_ixhvy7y wrote

One of whom is very obviously a troll.

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Reddit-runner t1_ixhwuqn wrote

Maybe, maybe not.

But you can't tell me with a serious face that there wouldn't be a huge pushback by people who want to "preserve the night sky". Just look at the media attention Starlink is receiving while their satellites are barely visible.

Solar power stations in GSO will always be visible, even tho they are further away.

Also the fossil fuel industry will do the same as they have done with renewable energy. They will pull every trick to sway public opinion against such a project.

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Saar_06 t1_ixhxu8t wrote

> Maybe, maybe not.

Very obviously a yes. Like, I'd use him as an example on recognizing trolling, it's that obvious he's just trying to get a rise.

> But you can't tell me with a serious face that there wouldn't be a huge pushback by people who want to "preserve the night sky". Just look at the media attention Starlink is receiving while their satellites are barely visible.

I can and I will. Which media attention? Starlink's 'sky pollution' was barely a topic. A few articles appeared on reddit.

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Reddit-runner t1_ixhz28g wrote

Starlink received at least three big articles in my very local newspaper over the last few years. People will not know what the project is about, but they will instantly tell you it ruins the night sky and makes astronomy impossible.

You heavily underestimate the technology aversion of the general population. Especially in Germany. What do you think is the reason for our prehistoric internet infrastructure? Thinking that 5G causes cancer is also just short of being accepted as sensible statement.

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Saar_06 t1_ixi1ba4 wrote

> Starlink received at least three big articles in my very local newspaper over the last few years.

I'm a newsjunkie and there was NO major reporting on this in Dutch media. At all. But a local newspaper in Germany is apparantly very concerned and that proves that this European project is going to face HUGE resistance? Come on man.

> You heavily underestimate the technology aversion of the general population. Especially in Germany. What do you think is the reason for our prehistoric internet infrastructure? Thinking that 5G causes cancer is also just short of being accepted as sensible statement.

And yet 5G is being rolled out with no problem all over Western Europe and the United States. As a techie you're falling for right-wing fossil-fuel propaganda that wants you to believe that there is some huge Luddite population that's the real opponent of progress instead of them.

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Reddit-runner t1_ixi3mv7 wrote

>And yet 5G is being rolled out with no problem all over Western Europe

Not in Germany. 5G is still the exception here, not the norm.

>there was NO major reporting on this in Dutch media. At all. But a local newspaper in Germany is apparantly very concerned and that proves that this European project is going to face HUGE resistance?

I used that as an example that even small german newspapers are reporting negatively about Starlink. And the big ones obviously too.

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Saar_06 t1_ixjou7c wrote

> Not in Germany. 5G is still the exception here, not the norm.

Which is unstoppingly changing.

> I used that as an example that even small german newspapers are reporting negatively about Starlink. And the big ones obviously too

Yeah and I used it as an example that you've got nothing besides a personal anecdote AKA nothing.

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Simoxs7 t1_ixf19qm wrote

Im just waiting for environmentalists to protest against ITER because it also is „nuclear“ energy

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