seiggy t1_ixf0krm wrote
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Did you not read what I wrote? Infared causes heating of the atmosphere, not microwaves. Wrong frequency.
barzbub t1_ixf39xy wrote
Microwaves transfer their energy to all particles they strike! Otherwise all energy would already be transmitted by it now!
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seiggy t1_ixfxkr5 wrote
No, they don’t. Electromagnetic waves don’t work like that. Light behaves as a particle wave. It doesn’t interact with all matter, and the energy transfer greatly depends on the wavelength of light and the energy level of the matter. CO2 happens to be easily excited by Infared light, but microwaves have a longer wavelength and are really poor at transferring energy into CO2 gas. https://www.livescience.com/50259-microwaves.html
Wanna know how to prove it? Go turn on your microwave for 2 mins with a small glass of water inside. Did the air temperature inside rise at all? Only the water inside is heated because the wavelength of a microwave is too large to transfer the energy to most gasses. There are a few noble gasses like Neon that would be excited if they were in there, but CO2 isn’t one of them, while it is the primary gas responsible for global temperature increase.
barzbub t1_ixhffom wrote
You’re right, and the sun’s electromagnetic energy doesn’t cause changes in the earths atmosphere! The Northern Lights is just fireworks 🤣
seiggy t1_ixhmke0 wrote
You do realize you're proving me right with that statement. The Northern Lights aren't caused by EM Radiation, they're caused by charged electrons in Solar Wind, not by Microwaves. EM Radiation are photons and uncharged fundamental particles, not high energy electrons. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-23377-5.epdf?sharing_token=Q0rjm5h2j_KavQboPe5r0NRgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0Nipe223V5hYGHe-RFuAQXUauChqVoyT7zITbpx_l9I4d9y3fMVLy0n3sVw5SJRoc_II7uBqXU-SzFM3JaTK6_kNmWDs_aEyfCQVLoWqqw15NsYjbFSXvak0yfuKrH76x8%3D
Are we going to just be going thru a full particle physics lecture by the end of this?
barzbub t1_ixhnfja wrote
Did you realize I’m proving that every type of energy has an effect on our atmosphere! Microwave transmissions will cause climate change! They’ll hear the water droplets in the atmosphere causing the temperature to rise!
seiggy t1_ixi0ggz wrote
You do realize that the whole point of these projects are to replace the existing fossil fuel plants. Not replace things like Hydroelectric, wind, solar, or nuclear power which doesn't add greenhouse gasses to the atmosphere. So by reducing the greenhouse gasses, Microwave or Laser based satellite solar plants would reduce the global climate change impact of humanity, not increase it. The amount of energy added to the atmosphere from a Microwave or Laser based solar plant is significantly less than the energy added because of the CO2 that a fossil fuel based plant adds to the atmosphere. Did you not read my post 3 topics ago? That's the entire point I've been making is that it's a net loss of energy compared to today, thus not increasing global temperatures.
barzbub t1_ixi0s33 wrote
Microwave energy heats water in the atmosphere! That percent doesn’t change much every year. Those issues have other solutions.
seiggy t1_ixi2pgd wrote
Right, so why haven't we seen a massive increase in global warming from the absolutely massive amount of microwave radiation we already produce from cell phone towers, wifi, bluetooth devices, and other modern wireless tech? Oh yeah, because the wavelength is too large to cause such energy transfer. It's the wavelength we use specifically because it's safe, low energy, and passes thru most matter easily without energy loss.
barzbub t1_ixi4qdu wrote
Haven’t we!? Or they’re blaming one cause and not another to misinform the public!?
seiggy t1_ixi6xgt wrote
Ah, so you're one of those. CO2 is the primary greenhouse gas that has caused accelerated global climate change. All of the science agrees and points to it. Only nutcase conspiracy theorist with no actual evidence claims anything else. If we're going to talk conspiracy theories and wild baseless claims without facts and science to back it up, I'm done explaining things to you.
Sir112 t1_ixslmqq wrote
How would they benefit in any wax from such disinformation. Like, there are actually usef ways in manipulating the public, like investing in your secret services, build more surveillance and make classical state propaganda that actually has a purpose and has proven throughout history to work
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