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GlenJman t1_iy7y2j2 wrote

Likely will only increase the gap between the rich and the poor.

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robertojh_200 t1_iy8s996 wrote

It may, but the overall quality of life at the bottom ought to go up. The wealth gap today is worse than it was 300 years ago, in a strictly linear fashion, but most people In first world countries live a better, more comfortable life than the wealthiest king of that time period.

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GlenJman t1_iy8sbw5 wrote

Also true, very fair point.

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robertojh_200 t1_iy8uynb wrote

Yeah I think it’s always important to put quality of life in perspective when talking about wealth gaps. The wealth gap should not be anywhere close to what it is now, certainly, and it’s easy to fall into a nihilistic cynicism over the state of wealth distribution in the world.

But I would counter that cynicism with the fact that we are even able to have this discussion at all. I’m holding in my hand right now a device that has the full scope of all human knowledge ever conceived accessible too it at the press of a few buttons, discussing the merits of interplanetary colonization with people from all over the world on a platform that engenders open discourse of current events in real time, from the comfort of my carpeted, centrally heated apartment while a machine does my laundry and my speaker plays any song ever written when I tell it too.

The way that Kings used to live 300 years ago would be seen as relatively quaint at best, downright uncomfortable at worst by our standards; it’s not the size of the castle so much as the quality of your life that I think people tend to miss. That’s not to say that life still isn’t a struggle, I think it’s something like 40 % of Americans live paycheck to paycheck, and those are problems that need to be resolved. I just think it’s important to keep the development of human enterprise in perspective, the things that it’s allowed us to achieve on an individual level would be unbelievable to people 300 years ago. In that lens, the development of outer space can really only be to everyone’s benefit. Rich people don’t benefit from an infinite supply of resources if they aren’t selling it to a populace that can afford it; there is no doubt in my mind that we are on the cusp of a civilization of outer space trillionaire‘s, probably even quadrillionaires. Access to space would fundamentally change our concept of the economy, at least for thousands, or potentially even millions of years. Right now we face shortages of lithium, silicon, helium, and other raw materials that are vital to modern life. But those things exist in functionally infinite supplies in the solar system, and new technologies such as fusion reactors could lead to a true golden age. The people that crack these technologies or first stake claims to these resources will be the wealthiest people in human history. But they can enjoy their fancy space yachts if that means that free and/or cheap fusion energy, power satellites, and infinite abundant access to raw materials and access to space uplifts all mankind. Look at how far we’ve come on an individual level over the past 300 years, and imagine the kind of quality of life that we could expect in 300 years from now in a society that is materialistically post scarcity. There would not be a need to want for anything, and scarcity-based economies would have to rethink how they function from the ground up.

It’s definitely a scary time to be alive, with all of these potential new changes, but I prefer to see them as opportunities.

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Freetobedumb t1_iyb4sv4 wrote

I really enjoyed this take, it was honestly refreshing and it’s nice not looking at big picture issues through a lens of doom and gloom.

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Limos42 t1_iyc12b3 wrote

Holy crap that was an excellent post. Thanks for sharing.

I wish I had gold, but you'll have to settle for my upvote instead.

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JKJ420 t1_iy8vd3c wrote

Maybe you should have thought of that before writing a useless, negative comment.

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GlenJman t1_iy8w9ef wrote

Oh look, a useless negative reply to a useless negative comment. 😂

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Maleficent_Hamster10 t1_iyawvhv wrote

And many in the other 2nd and 3rd world countries still live like feudal peasants while their elected officials live like modern day kings.

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SpeshellED t1_iyauwfv wrote

We will now pollute the living shit out of low earth orbit and the moon.

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robertojh_200 t1_iyawa46 wrote

Polluting empty space is a bit of an oxymoron.

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Busy_Bitch5050 t1_iybwiv2 wrote

It would still affect the overall expansion of the universe and the formation of solar systems. More resistance = lower speeds = change in formation of celestial objects.

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bookers555 t1_iy88hov wrote

Just wait a bit longer until space piracy becomes a thing, then things will get equalized.

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GlenJman t1_iy88kg2 wrote

Damn, I really want to be a space pirate now. 😂

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Orangeb0lt t1_iy8ubsr wrote

We're all born like 150 years to early to be space pirates living on an astroid 😞

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SowingSalt t1_iy8kqf6 wrote

I don't know, solar power satellites have the possibility of making energy cheap and abundant.

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GlenJman t1_iy8mo4m wrote

People who have the resources to build infrastructure like that are devoid of morals, that's the issue at the moment. Anyone with enough wealth and power to better the world is incapable of doing so.

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SowingSalt t1_iy9fo0e wrote

I guess I don't live in the same world as you.

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GlenJman t1_iy9jjqj wrote

I mean... I certainly can't put up solar powered satellites, I'm basically destitute. Your average millionaire couldn't either, though I already doubt they are good people with that much wealth. Only billionaires and governments would be able to achieve something like that.

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SowingSalt t1_iy9jzvf wrote

The billionaire wants to run his house/factory/datacenter...

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GlenJman t1_iy9kt4b wrote

Wouldn't benefit communities very much if he powers his empire cheaply, that only benefits him. The example isn't the point though, I just don't believe anyone that hoards wealth could be considered altruistic, they won't do anything to help others unless they're forced to.

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SowingSalt t1_iy9nnq0 wrote

Someone already built a power satellite in this case. The contractor has the tooling and expertise to build another without having to pay the development cost.

Though, if we live in a world with Power Sats, we probably live in a post scarcity society.

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greenw40 t1_iya1xet wrote

Why are people with the most comfortable lives so cynical and despondent?

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SpeshellED t1_iydal58 wrote

I guess its because they have more time to think about what is actually going on in our little world.

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GlenJman t1_iya2xuk wrote

I don't know how you're not at least a little cynical 😂

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Spirit-Revolutionary t1_iy893fi wrote

Maybe we can get lucky and live in that one age where everyone makes a lot more before it crashes down and then your either poor or rich again

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