Submitted by returnofjuju t3_zwuznx in space
arcosapphire t1_j203rwp wrote
Reply to comment by VikingBorealis in Historic first launch of Chinese private methane-fueled rocket ends in failure by returnofjuju
No, you don't get to wiggle out of it like that.
Your exact words:
> None of those headlines says "failure"
One of them did, indeed, say failure.
And the third example unquestionably says "fails" as the primary verb in the sentence.
VikingBorealis t1_j20anc5 wrote
You know very well what I meant which is why you didn't mention it first as well. So stop trolling.
BalkothLordofDeath t1_j20bluw wrote
You tried and failed. No use in crying about it or trying to wiggle and squirm your way out of it. Just accept it and do better.
VikingBorealis t1_j20d7cw wrote
Trolling trolling trolling
Do you understand the massive grammatical different between "firefly alpha failure" and " fireføy alpha launch failure"?
I know the answer, you don't, and if you didn't, you're to much of a redditor to admit you're wrong.
You only need to show your ignorance in one post.
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arcosapphire t1_j20ckhq wrote
What? I don't understand what you're referring to here.
You can't have this both ways. Either you wanted the exact word "failure" in the title, which is covered in example 2, or you want a primary focus on a failure, which is covered by example 3. You can't just rework what qualifies per example to exclude all of them. You are not being consistent.
VikingBorealis t1_j20dq81 wrote
No I didn't say specifically failure in the title. I said the titles are wired very differently when referring to western vs other launches.
With the Chinese headline the launch is called a failure. NEVER IS the launch referred to as a failure with firefly alpha. You do understand basic grammar enough to see that? They're referring to the specific failure, not calling the launch a failure.
It's not that hard.
arcosapphire t1_j20g94m wrote
> No I didn't say specifically failure in the title.
What the...these are your LITERAL WORDS:
> None of those headlines says "failure"
So yes, you did specify that, and you did it in response to a list of examples that included one that said "failure". Verbatim.
> With the Chinese headline the launch is called a failure. NEVER IS the launch referred to as a failure with firefly alpha.
But it is. The headline referred to it as a failure, and went on to talk about the cause of that failure. The failure was, in fact, the subject of the sentence. Since you're so keen on arguing grammar here.
ADDITIONALLY. The third example, which you keep ignoring, talks only about a failure. There is nothing to distract from this. What is your defense there? The only possible defense is to argue that it uses the verb "fails" instead of the noun "failure", yet you specifically just said that the exact word used isn't the point, so what is your defense here?
Edit: Annnd after once again avoiding the question, you blocked me. Yeah, that certainly shows you have a well-founded argument.
CodDamnWalpole t1_j20tugo wrote
Don't argue with redditors. It's not worth it. They'll die on any hill they happen to be standing on.
VikingBorealis t1_j20wl8x wrote
Are you seriusly trying to claim the headline referring to the specific failure of a specific component is trying to say the wjolenlaunch was a failure just to avoid saying you where wrong.
Well that's your hill to die on. But you clearly see there's a general bias to exaggerating failures of in this example Chinese launches, while western launches are treated technically accurate or even leniency. As your own example show, the word failure isn't used untill they're talking about the specific failed component, not for the launch.
Meanwhile the Chinese launch is a failure despite a successful first stage on a first of its kind rocket testing new tech.
Anyway. You're being purposely obtuse and trolling just to troll and argue at the this point. I'm not sure why, it's no exactly a secret that western news are biased to western achievements...
toodroot t1_j22wle9 wrote
> no exactly a secret that western news are biased to western achievements...
Thanks for explaining your motivation.
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