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Gaping_Ass_Wound t1_jcfmu8h wrote

Reply to comment by Thick_women_are_Life in Alabama's Brandon Miller has armed security guard due to threats. by PrincessBananas85

What if someone tells you to bring them their car then they drive someone over? Just playing devil's advocate but where do you draw the line?

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EarthDwellr t1_jcfo4qf wrote

I think because a gun is used with the intention to shoot people where a car is intended for transportation.

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LazyLarryTheLobster t1_jcgw1ca wrote

>I think because a gun is used with the intention to shoot people

No. The large majority of guns will never be intended to shoot a person in their existence.

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beyardo t1_jch6i9p wrote

I would debate that. If you’re buying a gun for self-defense, it’s with the intention to shoot another human being. You may never end up using it for that, but that’s not the same thing. You’re not buying a Glock to shoot deer

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LazyLarryTheLobster t1_jchpec0 wrote

"used with the intention to shoot people" was the line. Buying a gun is not using a gun.

You're trying to be pedantic about it but it doesn't even fit literally.

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beyardo t1_jchr9h0 wrote

I’m not the person who said that but the distinction is pretty clear. I’m not saying the kid should be legally liable for someone’s deaths or anything but if you really can’t acknowledge the distinction between a weapon and a vehicle then idk what to tell you

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LazyLarryTheLobster t1_jchrpvt wrote

lmfao you could try telling me said relevant distinction

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beyardo t1_jcitg8p wrote

Their primary intended purpose? If someone asks me to bring them something of theirs, it’s a fair assumption that they’re planning or considering using that thing. And since he didn’t ask the kid to bring his gun to him at a gun range, it’s not a big jump to realize that there is at least a risk that he’s going to be using it on someone or something. If someone asks me to bring them their car, ignoring the logistical challenges, then I’d assume they intend to use it for transportation. So unless they ask me to bring it to them in front of a bank mid-robbery, I should be able to reasonably say that they probably don’t intent to do anything potentially injurious

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LazyLarryTheLobster t1_jcitrfe wrote

>Their primary intended purpose? If someone asks me to bring them something of theirs, it’s a fair assumption that they’re planning or considering using that thing.

Agreed, target practice.

>And since he didn’t ask the kid to bring his gun to him at a gun range

lmao

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beyardo t1_jciukv5 wrote

Target practice is not grounds for an urgent request to bring someone a firearm in the wee hours of the morning. Again, from a legal standpoint, sure he had plausible deniability. But if he thought that they were asking for the gun just for funsies, that’s just willful ignorance

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LazyLarryTheLobster t1_jciv5ls wrote

>Target practice is not grounds for an urgent request to bring someone a firearm in the wee hours of the morning.

Says... you? Mr. Almighty urgent request authority lmfao

Thanks for your irrelevant opinion.

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beyardo t1_jciw6at wrote

Says common sense. They weren’t out in the middle of nowhere, they were in downtown Tuscaloosa. Other than a firing range there is no place in the city where the gun can be lawfully discharged.

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LazyLarryTheLobster t1_jciy6xt wrote

Let me guess, common sense is also how you jumped to remaining in the city lmao

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beyardo t1_jciz0vq wrote

“Hey man, bring me my gun. Me and my buddy are gonna walk 5+ miles to outside the city limits at 2 in the morning to find a safe spot for some target practice and then walk back” really seems something that seems plausible?

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tragically_square t1_jcfotg9 wrote

There is definitely a grey area. In your scenario I would say the purpose of the "instrument" matters. A car is typically used for transportation and unless they've indicated what is for the assumption is it will be used that way. A gun has a very limited specific purpose, and someone asking for yours should be a red flag.

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