Open-Election-3806 t1_je7l6yq wrote on March 30, 2023 at 12:02 AM

Reply to comment by Porkchopp33 in Ukraine, Russia frustrated by IOC approval of neutral athletes by PrincessBananas85

The athletes mass cheated in Sochi . Let’s not act like they are innocent angels

Porkchopp33 t1_je7la76 wrote on March 30, 2023 at 12:02 AM

I kno some did but did they all? If they did im Good w a ban

Open-Election-3806 t1_je7lohc wrote on March 30, 2023 at 12:05 AM

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doping_in_Russia

Hodor_The_Great t1_je86511 wrote on March 30, 2023 at 2:41 AM

So in other words not all, not even majority. Do we believe in collective punishment because of a minority here in the west? Thought that's supposed to be what Russians do not us

Open-Election-3806 t1_je9gufh wrote on March 30, 2023 at 11:54 AM

43 were caught, (these are just confirmed cheaters with one specific government sponsor cheating program) out of 232. And yes I’ve seen NCAA teams lose eligibility for violations of the few.

Russia is also violating the spirit of the Olympic with its unprovoked invasion of a neighboring country. Russia is also committing war crimes by constantly attacking civilians electricity depriving them of heat and water. Any Russian medals will be used as propaganda for their enslaved populace during wartime, There is a bigger picture picture involved.

Anyway. Since this article posted Russian allow to compete under neutral flag

Hodor_The_Great t1_jealus7 wrote on March 30, 2023 at 4:57 PM

When a huge amount got caught the rest had to go through strict checks... Says so in your own link pal. Minority got caught either cheating or were implicated via fabricated tests. Many refused to comply with the stricter requirements, some boycotted because of the rules being perceived as unfair, every single Russian athlete that has been competing since the scandal under neutral flag has complied with stricter requirements. So... Maybe read your own links and don't just cherrypick a number randomly. Your quoted numbers are why they already got punished, guilty ones got banned, rest were subjected to harsher rules, because of systematic problem instead of just athletes own initiative Russian flag got dropped. We already had crime, investigation, and punishment...

As for invasions and warcrimes those cannot be reason to ban Russia or even their flag when US and Turkey and Saudis get away with the same behaviour. Why should Olympics hold Ukrainian civilians being slaughtered to any higher regard than Iraqi or Yemeni civilians?