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brett1081 t1_j0l57d4 wrote

Reply to comment by rye_domaine in Heat place literally every player on injury report after receiving NBA fine ahead of Mexico City game by XXmynameisNeganXX

This is an entertainment business. The Spurs and Pop have been in the crosshairs for this as well. They are trying to sell tickets.

Honestly I think they need less games or a longer season window. But that will never happen.

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timothythefirst t1_j0lgjxl wrote

Nah dudes need to just play if they aren’t actually injured. They just extended the season window a few years ago so there’s already way less back to backs than there used to be. These dudes are making millions of dollars playing a game because of the fans.

I bought tickets last year when the warriors came to Detroit because I’ve wanted to see Steph and klay play for years and Steph was on one of the best stretches of his career leading up to that game. Then not even an hour and a half before game time the warriors announced Steph klay and Draymond were all out for rest. They play at Detroit once a year. Im a grown man so it’s whatever I had a few beers with my friends and still enjoyed the game but I’m sure there was tons little kids there that day who wanted to see their favorite players and families who spent a nice chunk of cash on tickets. It’s bullshit and a slap in the face to the fans. Keep in mind this game was in the middle of November, it’s not even like they were resting up for the playoffs.

If they really NEED a rest day at least announce it more than 2 hours before the game so people don’t waste money on tickets.

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lostcitysaint t1_j0ljzhw wrote

Rest players at home. They get seen there all the time. Shouldn’t rest superstars on the road, especially a place you only go once a year. You’re resting on the luxury team plane. Just play.

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NubEnt t1_j0llr9e wrote

Not that I’m opposed to what you’re saying, but there’s probably a financial reason for resting players for road games over home games.

If you rest players during home games, people will catch on eventually that it’s not guaranteed that your home team’s players will be on the court all the time, and your team’s ownership loses ticket/concession sales. If you rest players during road games, the other team bears the brunt of any such losses.

And ideally, the other team’s home market is mostly there to see their home team’s players anyway, unless they suck that bad.

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cfranek t1_j0mdqn1 wrote

It has been shown that players get injured on the road more than at home.

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Malvania t1_j0lw1xh wrote

Balance to that would be for home teams to designate 2-3 players from each away team as "undroppable," (subject to the player being on IR or something) such that they're awarded some sort of financial compensation if the player doesn't play. That would balance the financial cost of resting players

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jtmj121 t1_j0lkvo4 wrote

Ya rest players against chump teams where you don't need them to win. Detroit has sucked for a while. Yes it sucks for fans but the players / coaches are competitors, they go out there to win.

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nickmif t1_j0loant wrote

Dude I was at that game with my buddy who drove four hours to see Steph. He was so bummed and I felt so bad for him.

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michaelpinkwayne t1_j0m7e9s wrote

They should announce rest days further in advance, but there will still be people who check the schedule when it’s released and buy tickets to certain games to see visiting players.

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timothythefirst t1_j0maos3 wrote

I mean if you buy a ticket months in advance I feel like you’re doing it with the understanding that anything can happen, if you watch a healthy player play great on Monday night and buy tickets to the game on Tuesday or Wednesday night you’re probably expecting to see him play.

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fitzcreative t1_j0lknic wrote

Sorry but this seems incredibly short sighted to me. Would you rather enjoy Steph Curry once in Detroit to potentially risk losing out on the longevity of his career? It would be more tragic to watch him fizzle out because he tried to play every single game.

How fatigue is measured in professional sports these days is quite intense. You show up the day of a game and get assessed. Maybe you didn’t get enough sleep, maybe you slept in a funny position, maybe you accidentally pushed your self too hard in a work out. If you don’t score well on the assessment there’s no way the team is going to risk playing you.

I’d rather see these players break records than get burnt out early for the sake of mid season game.

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timothythefirst t1_j0lmpqn wrote

I would agree with this if it was something like a nagging injury that playing through would do damage to. I’m not asking them to play injured. And if that is the case, like I said in my last paragraph, announce it publicly much earlier than an hour before the game. Teams in every sport are secretive with injury reports because it makes it harder for the opponent to game plan and that’s bad for the fans.

And it was Steph and Draymond both sitting out for rest (now that I think about it klay was still recovering from the injury so he gets a pass). Did they sleep in the same bed and both sleep funny? I highly doubt a teams best players both had secret underlying conditions and playing against the pistons would’ve been the breaking point that caused their careers to flame out.

Like I said, no one needs to play injured. If they run some kind of test and determine it wouldn’t be safe for a guy to play, announce it before fans are literally in their car on the way to the game. Or reimburse fans a portion of the money they spent on tickets but you know they won’t do that.

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cyberpunk_VCR t1_j0lux3m wrote

Okay, but the problem isn't giving players the night off. That's expected and not against the rules. What the NBA wants to avoid - and rightfully so - is for teams to give EVERY player in their starting lineup the night off at the same time.

It's highly doubtful that every player on a starting lineup is going to "sleep in a funny position" as you put it.

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Cladari t1_j0ll4yb wrote

What bothers me is that home teams will charge more for games against teams with big stars. If that star doesn't play because the coach wants to rest him you don't get a refund for the extra amount they charged you.

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timothythefirst t1_j0lqkre wrote

Bingo. I’ve been a pistons fan for 20+ years, been going to games since the early 2000s when they were actually good, and for the past 12 years the main draw to the arena has been the other teams. And they know this when they sell you the tickets, the emails I get from their ticket office always say stuff like “see Steph curry and the warriors take on the pistons! See lebron James and the lakers take on the pistons!”.

They actually sent out a survey and there was a question on there that asked something to the effect of “what have you been unsatisfied with when attending games” and “star players inactive” was one of the options lol.

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H83PUTTZ t1_j0m511j wrote

This hurts because I had my first opportunity to see Steph when they played the Jazz a week or so ago. Still a good game but hurts paying $200 a pop for what normally costs $30

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skrtskerskrt t1_j0lrq1m wrote

They don't get this part at all. NBA more than any other team sport is star dependent. From the marketing to the pricing to referee calls, it's all based on the stars.

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paperclipknight t1_j0mjq5e wrote

To the detriment of the sport - they really need to pivot away from stars and focus on team rivalries. Just look at how soccer rivalries are built up. People didn’t stop watching Barcelona vs RM as soon as Cr7 & Messi left

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darkjurai t1_j0mqkqd wrote

I think the amount of player movement undermines team rivalries a bit. Like back in the days of Knicks-Heat, there was seven years of Ewing vs Mourning. Roster stability really helps.

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paperclipknight t1_j0n30oo wrote

Somewhat so though arguably because the NBA is almost pathologically committed to player rivalries - it’s always “LeBron vs Steph” & never “Tonight the Knicks play the Nets in the New York derby, who’s going to be the kings of NYC”

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Kevolved t1_j0nojir wrote

Lakers celtics is always great. Granted they both usually have at least decent teams.

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KeyserSooooze t1_j0mixfs wrote

Gambling reasons too.

Both sportsbooks and bettors get pissed when players don’t play because of an injury they were not aware of.

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SolidPoint t1_j0l8jxm wrote

They did extend the season window.

It literally just happened.

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VeseliM t1_j0l9am9 wrote

They extended the season window to get rid of 4 games in 5 nights 5 years ago

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michaelpinkwayne t1_j0m73to wrote

I honestly think 64 games is the way to go. Look at the NFL, more games doesn’t mean more revenue. The way the game is currently played, 30 minutes a night for 82 games is just too much for even the most durable guys. 64 games would mean fewer injuries, more certainty with who’s playing, and guys playing harder because the games matter more.

You could also throw in some kind of mid-season tournament designed to promote young guys and bench guys.

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thwgrandpigeon t1_j0m15sa wrote

An entertainment business that often lives and dies on their stars staying healthy. The league is moronic and there are too many games.

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