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LowGradePlayer t1_jaczdjk wrote

Stay ahead of China?

What are they exactly ahead of them in?

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Akiasakias t1_jad6pn1 wrote

In this case microprocessors?

It's ambiguous because china only makes the very low end chips. They are not a threat to the high end market.

The article does not differentiate. So yeah china makes a lot of chips, but not even the quality to go in a car, more like a toaster. Lots of em, but just the real basic designs.

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Akiasakias t1_jadlfxl wrote

Hence the onshoring.

It would be trouble, but temporary. Not crippling. Notably, even if China captured the factories intact, which is impossible. They would not have the capacity to utilize them without American designs.

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Mr_ToDo t1_jaeouvh wrote

I wonder how America would ever compete on the low end. There are 10 cent Risc-V microcontrollers available. It's kind of wild

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Akiasakias t1_jaerdef wrote

It is a problem, but consider this. Mexican labor is now cheaper than Chinese labor and they are going through the largest buildout of industrial capacity in their history.

Not to mention the rest of south east Asia is still dirt cheap for mass production.

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S-192 t1_jadwdq7 wrote

Cutting edge semiconductor technology. We are very ahead, and China is still struggling to access the means (resources, blueprints/patents, skilled labor, etc) of high-tech production and R&D that we have.

Their pseudo-capitalism under a controlled state lugs immense inertia and they're paying for it. Theft of IP has so far been their only valuable card, and we're trying very hard to make that harder for them.

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LowGradePlayer t1_jadyhzo wrote

That’s a legacy advantage.

If you have to invest in who will develop the best tech in the next 20 years, where are you putting your money?

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S-192 t1_jae0wqz wrote

US/EU. China's economy is experiencing a period of burnout. We have chief control over the most cutting edge AI, which is expanding and improving by orders of magnitude, which drives insane network effects for all participating and adjacent industries.

China's certainly maintaining threat status, and their constant IP theft could certainly drive sudden leaps in progress, but we'll see.

I'm more concerned about China's global Imperialism, laying claim to natural resources/mineral rights across Africa, LatAm, etc, than I am about their ability to catch up to our leading edge of tech.

Hell, they've been trying for like 20 years now to catch up to our offshore/oil tech (which is very low tech stuff compared to this semiconductor shit) and they're still at best making janky knock-offs.

Edit-- lol you're the guy claiming China's 18 trillion dollar economy is larger than America's 25 trillion. If you honestly think every single competitive edge of ours is 'legacy' then you're really just playing the doomer.

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LowGradePlayer t1_jaeh721 wrote

US is finished, you can barely hold elections anyone.

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Gold_Sky3617 t1_jaem5od wrote

The United States is in a considerably better position than China right now. There are not many analysts that think China is well positioned for the future. Their entire economy is reliant on US business and more importantly the US currency.

Sure, it might be a totalitarian lunatic in charge of the United States but that would just put them on the same footing as China has been in for like…. Ever.

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PicardTangoAlpha t1_jadybr5 wrote

Everything China is trying to steal or copy.

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LowGradePlayer t1_jadztjx wrote

Steal or copy?

What fantasy are you living in?

Who care how they get it, they are the worlds largest economy and their kids are all coming outta school as match and science genius whereas our kids still struggle with pronouns.

They have the US in the rear view mirror.

Any advantage we may have is just legacy and will soon evaporate.

We are lucky they don’t make cars, yet.

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waffles350 t1_jae2d9r wrote

They're not the largest for one, let's get the record straight on that. They steal IP like it's their national pastime, without the West supplying innovation and buying their cheap shit their economic successes are going to evaporate. Combine that with their demographic collapse and it just looks kinda dumb for you to say all that...

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payeco t1_jaem7ql wrote

Lay off the propaganda my friend.

Also, China does make cars… They have for decades….

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PicardTangoAlpha t1_jae1ld0 wrote

>Largest economy

Largest? Largest GDP? How much is that?

😀😂🤣

The only thing where your claim is true is largest insecurities and biggest ego. 🤡

Taiwan has very little to worry about.

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