0wed12 t1_jadymbu wrote on February 28, 2023 at 7:17 PM

Reply to comment by S-192 in The U.S. needs more than the CHIPS Act to stay ahead of China: MIT report by Vailhem

> They are, still, a mass production economy of low/medium tech

It was the case a decade ago, but not today, they are now a huge major hub for high end and deep tech industry.

Also the theft complain isn't so true anymore as some major peer reviewed reports pointed out that they are now the one publishing the most internationally cited studies.

https://www.science.org/content/article/china-rises-first-place-most-cited-papers

S-192 t1_jae1cu3 wrote on February 28, 2023 at 7:34 PM

Volume is still not necessarily the strongest indicator. It's difficult to see if this is a direct outcome of a 'more innovative economy' or if it's just the sheer volume. As we've seen in the US, academia is experiencing mass publication spam and cross-references between low-impact papers. It's entirely possible to see mass citation of a very meaningless paper.

As far as them being a major hub for high end/'deep tech', they just aren't to our level. I'm not sure how to quantify the gap other than in production numbers (and in the volume of business activity in adjacent/prerequisite supply chains) and they just aren't there yet with that stuff.

sheeeeeez t1_jaenghx wrote on February 28, 2023 at 9:56 PM

What's your opinion on their fast rising Electric Vehicles industry?

0wed12 t1_jae69te wrote on February 28, 2023 at 8:05 PM

I agree with you the quantity doesn't mean quality but that's why they use multiple methodology such as cited studies in others renowned journals, quotations in other research, impact factor of such study etc.

Bias still exist but this report is the most reliable to this date.

rememberyoubreath t1_jae4se2 wrote on February 28, 2023 at 7:56 PM

my knowledge about the geopolitics of the chinese market and its progress is limited, but learning chinese i can see how their writing system would be an advantage. it's so many things at once it's mind boggling and is the proof of cultural genius. they are constantly training on complex visual data.