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ZXKeyr324XZ t1_j8jchfj wrote

Reply to comment by ArcadesRed in EU approves 2035 ban on new fossil fuel car sales by chrisdh79

Sodium-ion batteries are cobalt-free, and they will presumably be a big part of most EVs in the forseable future given the vast abundance of sodium on Earth

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Plzbanmebrony t1_j8jcwuk wrote

Those lithium–sulfur batteries are also coming onto the market. We are in the setting up production phase of development.

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ArcadesRed t1_j8jhgoi wrote

No, they are still firmly in the lab from everything I read. Do you have a source saying otherwise?

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Plzbanmebrony t1_j8jpx5x wrote

So many "epic new super battery" nonsense fills every single search I can't find it again. But I did find the tech they were talking about. They didn't meant in the video that it need to be kept hot to be stable.

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ArcadesRed t1_j8jve07 wrote

Ya, I had the same problem. But I was reading that it did super well in hot environments. So we at least know the battery will work well in industry, not so well in the winter.

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ArcadesRed t1_j8jf5xu wrote

So in the next ten years, the EU is going to revolutionize the sodium battery. Fix it's charging cycle problems, lower it's weight low enough to even fit in EV's. Because so far no car uses it due to it sucking for anything mobile. Set up nigh on hundreds of factories to bring them to market in the millions.

No, in ten years we might start to see them be small enough to put in EV's in a lab maybe. More likely applications like city busses if you're lucky. But in no way will an industry exist even alongside lithium batteries to support this fiction.

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ZXKeyr324XZ t1_j8jfddl wrote

...There are already sodium ion batteries ready for launch this year..?

The BYD Seagull is right around the corner

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ArcadesRed t1_j8jhyje wrote

All I am seeing is hype and guessing. You have any sources confirming it's power source or just guessing from auto magazine's like I read.

Edit. A word

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ZXKeyr324XZ t1_j8jnty1 wrote

All I've read is from several different reports talking about said car, some reports about BYD working on Sodium Ion batteries too.

Beyond that, CATL is also working on them too.

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Ancient_Persimmon t1_j8pahmp wrote

LFP are Cobalt free and are actually in production with at least 25% of EVs being so-equipped.

You don't even have to look at experimental technology for that.

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ZXKeyr324XZ t1_j8pakgx wrote

That is also true, I didnt remember LFPs when I wrote my comment

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