2KoolAwYe t1_j9ocmuy wrote
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They constantly make claims that are "half true" about their products
The biggest example of this is Safari being the """fastest browser""" because they disabled most WebKit features that took effort to optimise
Or the time they claimed that you could make a feature film with final cut and an iPhone because ONE under budget studio made ONE indie film that barely anyone watched
Or the claim that Macs never get viruses, despite them having some absolute conkers in their time and the only reason they made that claim was because so few people used Macs at the time that nobody really bothered to make viruses for them, which rapidly changed with their popularity
Or the multiple times they've been announcing and delaying their self driving car
However, the stuff with their watch always seems to work, so I'd go with the product lines past performance, rather than trusting Apple as a brand, I have hope that this will be somewhat usable or at least shippable
ACCount82 t1_j9odcc2 wrote
Have they actually announced a self-driving car? I thought it was all in "leaks and rumors" category.
DanielPhermous t1_j9odxug wrote
>The biggest example of this is Safari being the """fastest browser""" because they disabled most WebKit features that took effort to optimise
Safari genuinely used to be the fastest browser when Apple was pushing it. I hadn't heard anything about them boasting it's faster while disabling features. Source?
>Or the time they claimed that you could make a feature film with final cut and an iPhone because ONE under budget studio made ONE indie film that barely anyone watched
What's wrong with that? If a feature film was made, then it's possible to make a feature film.
>Or the claim that Macs never get viruses, despite them having some absolute conkers in their time
As far as I'm aware, during the era they were making those claims, they never did. Oh, sure, some research labs made viruses as proof of concepts, but none got into the wild.
They did have a small amount of malware, however, but no viruses.
>...and the only reason they made that claim was because so few people used Macs at the time that nobody really bothered to make viruses for them, which rapidly changed with their popularity
MacOS 9 - before Jobs came back and replaced it with an entirely different UNIX based OS - had plenty of viruses and even less market share. So, if what you say is true, why did people bother to make viruses for Mac OS 9, but not Mac OS 10?
>Or the multiple times they've been announcing and delaying their self driving car
Apple has made no announcements regarding any car they may or may not be working on. Ever.
2KoolAwYe t1_j9of2t7 wrote
> Safari
Look up on a CSS comparison sites the specific version of safari you used and what was missing, I only noticed this because I was doing web development and constantly had to make similar """fixes""" for safari, potentially more than IE in some cases
> Feature film
It's possible to make an indie film or YouTube videos, their marketing suggested you could make the NEXT CINEMA BLOCKBUSTER
It's misleading, the case study they wrote on it also discussed the entire process like it was cutting edge, when it was really simple stuff
> Viruses/malware
Pal, you and I both know that paragraph is both a lie and full of cope
We can also go over the multiple kernel security exploits Apple constantly creates, despite claiming their software is """more secure"""
> OS 10
They did, what are you talking about?
> Car
I'll admit I might be wrong on this one, I'm pretty sure I've heard the company discuss the idea before though
DanielPhermous t1_j9ofs75 wrote
> Look up on a CSS comparison sites the specific version of safari you used and what was missing, I only noticed this because I was doing web development and constantly had to make similar """fixes""" for safari, potentially more than IE in some cases
That would only provide half the story. I requested a source that they were boasting it's faster while disabling features.
>It's possible to make an indie film or YouTube videos, their marketing suggested you could make the NEXT CINEMA BLOCKBUSTER
Those goal posts have shunted somewhat. A minute ago, it was just "feature film". Can you link an example of that marketing so we can see which version you've presented is the correct one?
>Pal, you and I both know that paragraph is both a lie and full of cope
Okay. Can you provide an example of a virus in the wild for Mac OS X from it's introduction until when, say, Steve died? That's about the period they were boasting about their lack of viruses.
>They did, what are you talking about?
You claimed people didn't bother writing viruses for the Mac because it wasn't popular enough to bother, but there were more viruses for Mac OS 9 than Mac OS X, even though it had less market share. Can you explain that discrepancy?
>I'll admit I might be wrong on this one, I'm pretty sure I've heard the company discuss the idea before though
Sure. Source?
2KoolAwYe t1_j9og1tx wrote
I'm not going to write you an essay or provide you sources because I get the feeling you're not going to accept them and I have better things to do
Google it or not, you have enough info to easily find all of it, I don't care if you believe me about the reality of these things
DanielPhermous t1_j9oh362 wrote
Bullshit is easy. Proving it is obviously more difficult.
Shrug.
2KoolAwYe t1_j9oi5zp wrote
Proving it would take more effort than it's worth, for someone who is going to clap back with semantics and not understand what I'm saying
The thing that broke me was thinking that there are versions of Mac OS without exploits or malicious software, after you saying that is very clear you're not prepared to listen, so I'm gonna take the downvotes from other pedants that don't want to look things up on here so I can enjoy my day off and not waste time researching on you
DanielPhermous t1_j9oll3s wrote
> The thing that broke me was thinking that there are versions of Mac OS without exploits or malicious software
And now you're lying about what I said, as if I can't remember.
"They did have a small amount of malware, however, but no viruses."
This is how you convince yourself you've won? By lying to yourself about what my arguments were?
That is no victory. That's your ego seeking catharsis.
Inbox replies disabled. There's no point talking to someone who will lie to my face about my own words.
2KoolAwYe t1_j9oo5kv wrote
No, it's the bit about Mac OS 9/10
This is exactly what I'm talking about
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