Submitted by psmith t3_117ubel in technology
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Der_Missionar t1_j9dsnxp wrote
Having lived in China, and owned a company in China since the early 2000s, this is nothing new. Companies were complaining of courts dissolving partnerships, and the ip going to the local company.
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Der_Missionar t1_j9fev9n wrote
USA's place on the top of the economic pyramid isn't a given. Nor should it be. There are other much more populous countries, who should grow, to be able to have very high standards of living. If the USA keeps on top for the next 50 years, our standard of living will far outpace most other places in Asia / Africa / Central South America. I'm not sure that's a good thing. Even if China's economy surpasses that of the USA, that economic strength is watered down over a much larger population. 1.35 Billion vs. 340 million. China's economy would need to be almost 4x greater than the states, to have economic parity, according to population.
Will China be on top though? That's hard to say. China is great at copying technology but has been challenged with creating high quality patents - innovation is still a struggle for them. They have a ton of huge issues from environmental challenges, to a rapidly declining population, to an emerging generation that is not as driven as the previous generation. If they can figure out how to innovate, on the scale that the USA innovates, they'll do well.
The USA has a ton of issues as well, including emerging class conflicts and extreme class income disparity. America is politically and ideologically polarized, and drugs and crime are spiraling out of control. Unless the USA figures out how to address some of these issues, the USA is in for a world of hurt. Our most progressive cities are a mess - San Francisco, etc. - and those are the policies toward where the rest of our cities are moving. America still has much more going for it, but in 50 years, it'll be interesting to see how all this shakes out. There were huge changes in the 50 years from 1920-1970, then tremendous changes in the 50 years from 1970-2020, who knows what'll happen from 2020-2070.
Foe117 t1_j9e5wms wrote
It's not a court, its just a kangaroo trial for IP theft. Western Tech has long since avoided being designed in china, even if they do take the IP, its useless without the source code.
RoastPsyduck t1_j9egdyy wrote
^ this.
I think most western companies are using chinese labor and their relaxed environmental laws for the cheap/simple/hazardous stuff and keeping their secret sauce back home...if not, then they're even dumber than I thought
bitfriend6 t1_j9fzer6 wrote
They actually are that dumb and they'll continue being dumb until the CCP nationalizes their property, makes an alternative competing product, and begins selling it at Walmart. Only then will western companies respond and it'll be way too late. Americans will either be upset at the decreased amount of cheap offbrand TVs or be upset when certain products, like pre-DTV TVs, are discontinued. Especially for automobiles and smartphones, US firms cannot meaningfully leave without seriously harming themselves. GM cannot survive without China and China leverages this. GM would sooner attempt to sell badge engineered Chinese market vehicles to Americans then stop China from stealing their trade secrets, and Americans will be told to accept it as the price of living in a globalized world.
dubiousadvocate t1_j9fimed wrote
Boeing was even dumber than you thought.
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the1gofer t1_j9g29p5 wrote
I’d you lie down with dogs you get fleas
RandomUser1076 t1_j9dsm9b wrote
Like everyone else
opticd t1_j9e14ps wrote
Meanwhile, the US’ strategy is trying to bludgeon its own tech companies to death and slam them in the media. Seems like a winning approach in conjunction with this.
creationavatar t1_j9el4q7 wrote
Hol up, this is a separate issue.
Having an unelected elite class manipulating what the masses see/ think is an issue that must be addressed.
bitfriend6 t1_j9fzkpm wrote
America's tech companies are largely responsible for the shift to China and asset stripping of American industries, especially hardware manufacturing. The sooner the government cuts them off by cutting off their access to external suppliers, the better we'll all be even if it means more expensive iphones. Imagine a world where people pay to repair their phones instead of trashing them every 18 months.
opticd t1_j9g1y9p wrote
Hardware tech, sure… but that was primarily for economic reasons (cheap labor). That’s not the same as forced technology transfer though.
seksismart t1_j9ecx9t wrote
Any1 doing business in China and not expecting to get get their tech stolen is a complete moron.